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July 20, 2007

Posted by Rob Steen on 07/20/2007

To walk or not to walk





Dhoni takes the catch. Or does he? © Getty Images

Thank-you, MS Dhoni, from the bottom of my heart. Had you not claimed that “catch” off Kevin Pietersen at Lord’s today, the Walking Lobby might have continued imagining it had half a leg to stand on.

The Walking Lobby never goes away. Every so often, it dons a suit and tie and bursts into the room, jabbing the air with a big fat cigar (Cuban preferably), wailing about declining ethical standards and professional liars, urging batsmen to get the game’s values back to where they once belonged. And, just as often, some slapping-down is necessary.

On the basis that taking issue with fellow toilers in my scruffy vineyard is impolite, names will not be named. Suffice to say that two colleagues for whom I hold nothing but the utmost respect have dredged up that stalest of old potatoes this week by clamouring for a return to walking. To which the only response is a respectful raspberry.

Much is made of professionalism being the source of all skulduggery, that the amateur occupies loftier moral terrain, but this is purest balderdash. Have you ever watched a game of golf or tennis between a pair of club hacks? Are Sunday morning soccer games on Hackney Marshes any less filthy than the Premiership shenanigans down the road at White Hart Lane? One member of the Walking Lobby expressed the view that the pursuit of money – in individual and collective terms - lies at the heart of the dishonesty that underpins the philosophy of the Non-Walkers. But could not the same be said of any journalist who declines to credit his or her sources and instead presents facts and quotes obtained by others as their own handiwork? I’ll willingly hold my hand up to that one.

Once upon a time, or so Derek Birley related in his myth-busting book, The Willow Wand, walking evolved as a symbol of the class divide, a means by which a batsman asserted his social and moral superiority over umpires and bowlers alike, both of whom almost invariably hailed from less privileged stock. Bowlers served; umpires gave batsmen the benefit of any doubt. To give oneself out was the sign of a gentleman, not a player.

As if this weren’t objectionable enough, the cracks in the custom were soon apparent. If a batsman had made 100, he was a good deal more likely to walk than if he had struggled to 10. Some manipulated the system, walking just often enough to acquire a reputation for integrity and thus sowing more than sufficient seeds of doubt among umpires, and hence derive the benefit whenever they chose not to walk. How blissfully ironic that one of the Walking Lobby’s latest attempts at persuasion should take place during Monday’s annual Cowdrey Lecture at Lord’s: Colin Cowdrey, after all, was notorious for having it both ways.





Ken Barrington walks off. Or pretends to... © Getty Images

The Walking Lobby had its biggest field day in Cape Town at the turn of 1965. In the third Test, infuriated by the refusal of Eddie Barlow to do what he and his colleagues believed to be the decent thing, that proudest and most patriotic of Poms, Ken Barrington, walked on 49 when he knew his apparent glance to the keeper might have eluded umpire Warner. To make a point. Not so much, perhaps, that walking was morally correct, more that, even if the opposition were rotters, an Englishman knew how to do the right thing.

Which brings us back to Dhoni. Gone, inevitably, are the days when batsmen took fielders at their word. Why should they? Libel laws probably mean that I cannot describe the catch Steve Waugh claimed off Brian Lara at the start of the dynasty-ending 1995 Worrell Trophy series – replays left viewers in no doubt whatsoever that the ball had bounced first – in the manner I would ideally like. On the other hand, it would be naïve to propose that this was endemic of a new, cancerous strain of cynicism. So long as fielders have been permitted to appeal, there has been a desire to persuade by dishonest means. As Mike Atherton astutely noted from the Lord’s commentary booth, Pietersen’s edge flew into the upper part of Dhoni’s horizontal glove – a sure sign to any experienced keeper that it had kissed the turf first.

That Adam Gilchrist walked in the 2003 World Cup semi-final was profoundly admirable, no two ways about it. But it was an act of protest – at global perceptions of allegedly over-competitive, under-scrupulous Australians - that stemmed from a secure base. There was plenty of batting to come and his side were the world’s best by a mile or three. Had Sri Lanka won that day, it is hard not to wonder whether he would have copped some flak from his bemused teammates. It bears remembering that Glenn Hoddle, then England soccer manager and born-again Christian, castigated Robbie Fowler after the striker confessed to having dived to win a penalty for Liverpool, then purposely fluffed the resultant spot-kick.

A letter published in Thursday’s Times proffered the obverse side of the coin: if walking becomes de rigeur, does that mean that the batsman has every right to refuse to venture pavilion-wards if he disagrees with the umpire’s decision, which is supposed, is it not, to be the final word?

Lest we forget, those men in white coats are paid a pretty penny these days to dispense such wisdom. Recent statistics, moreover, revealed that, at Test level, they get decisions right comfortably more than 90% of the time. So let them get on with it. They get more than enough help as it is.

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Comments

Posted by: Rachael Gore on 07/20/2007

Well done Rob Steen for speaking up. We should take a large vat of weedkiller to the perennial nasty that is the debate on whether or not batsman should fall on their own swords.
CMJ and others are living in a fantasy world if they think walking would be healthy for the game. Firstly it would see an end to the great innings, double centuries and upwards would be all but obliterated from the game if the odd nick behind wasn't studiously ignored by the man in the middle.
Secondly, if one particular cricketer does make it known that he is a walker what is to stop that cricketer on 99* staring incredulously from the gloveman to the umpire after the nicked ball has been taken on the grounds that because he always walks, the umpire on this occasion should trust his integrity.
And thirdly we just no longer live in a world where honesty is the best policy. Cricketers have to get on as well and if they walk every time they get an edge on the ball without waiting for the umpire's decision, most of them wouldn't get past 50.
Besides the bad decisions go both ways and speaking for myself, I enjoy northing more than observing the wry smile on an English batters face when they've got away with one - it makes my day.

Posted by: pb on 07/20/2007

Maybe Dhoni had a right to appeal as you say. But the fact was it bounced and the indians tried to deceive the umpire, which was loathsome. The same applies to Graeme Hick's one bounce catch in the slips to dismisss Vikram Rathore (A specialist edger ) or moin Khan's appeals after a one bounce catch had been held off Ganguly at the famous chennai test.

In the end its not about the team or the umpire or the scoreboard. Its about the spectator. If I see a ball bouncing and I am told thats out caught I would rather watch WWE.

If players are not willing to play fair we should hit them where it hurts ..in their pockets....

If players need not be accountable, then why have an umpire. Each decision can be made automatically through TV and players can appeal to stumpy or lumpy or whatever loathsome graphic they come up with.

Any one who claims a one bounce catch should be fined his entire match fee, for deceiving ME the SPECTATOR !!!!

Posted by: Aditya on 07/20/2007

Here's the thing about walking: all the people who advocate it have nothing to say about the disgusting nature of the behaviour exhibited on the field by some cricketers, especially in terms of sledging, trash talk and so on. That is not mature sportsmanship at all.

Posted by: Dinesh Weeratunga on 07/20/2007

Kumar Sangakkara signalled he has dropped the catch off Gilchrist in the world cup final this year(2006). Even T.V. replays didn't conclusively show him dropping the ball. Although the outcome of the final could have changed if Sangakkara cheated that day, he did the honorable thing. In a way Sri Lankans repayed the honorable actions of Gilchrist himself in the 2003 world cup. This is another instance that shows if you are honest and do the right thing, good things will happen to you in the long run. This is true in cricket as well as in any real life situation.

Posted by: Latif Ahmed on 07/20/2007

The very word "Cricket" distinguishes the sport of gentlemen from that of ruffians and riffraff. It is not the question whether to walk or not when the batsman knows he is out, but should a cricketer be honest at times or not. I have palyed this game for over 40 years (obviously not very well or you would know who I am) and this is what I learned as to how the game should be played. If only the fielder know that the ball has crossed the boundary, he should signal to indicate that. If one has dropped a catch, one should let all know. If an umpire indicate that catch has not been made even though the fielder know it has been or batsman is out although the batsman know he is not, these are the times to honor the game and walk without argument. I am a avid fan of all sports, but Cricket is Cricket (or was?). We remember fondly the honorable men and their deeds of honor. We also remember those who were otherwise. Arguments in favor of how it is do not hold water when gentlemen in all of know how it should be.

Posted by: tinker on 07/20/2007

Gilchrist walked in a semi final on a dodgy pitch, it's a joke to say he only walked because he knew his team were so good they could still win without him.

Don't attack the one honest man in cricket just to make your case for the crooks.

Posted by: AnonymousIndian on 07/21/2007

I think walking implies some level of distrust in the umpires & results in undermining of their authority to make the players look 'good'. If batsmen can take their own decision, what are the 3 umpires there for?

Also, in almost all cases, the umpires are obviously in the right position to observe the events & draw the right conclusions..like even if the ball kissed the bat, did it the slip fielder take it cleanly..which is something the batsman simply cannot judge from where he is & looking at the speed with which it all happens. In short, noble though it may seem to walk, I think it is a decision best left to those who are meant to take it..if there is a mistake, let it be accepted in the spirit of the game.

Posted by: Theena on 07/21/2007

The more I read your writing, the more I am convinced that you will soon become my favourite cricket writer. Once again, wonderful article.

To add to the discussion, I have always refuted the school of thought that espouses cricket to occupy a higher moral and ethical plane in comparison to other sports. It is presumably the basis upon which the nonsensical cliches of our beloved game - "The Gentleman's game", "It's not cricket" and the ever popular "against the spirit of cricket" - were founded.

It is also presumably the basis upon which the premise for CMJ's lecture was founded. While the issue of walking is an emotive one - and I have nothing but the highest respect for the cricketers who walk willingly, moreso in the most important of games (Gilchrist being the most outstanding example - I agree with you: leave it to the umpire. If the umpire's word is supposedly final, and his word gives you another life line, why not take it?

No other sport demands its players pay heed to such silly ill-defined moral standards. Why should cricket?

Posted by: John Sarjeant on 07/21/2007

A walker myself, I have always taken the view that if you do not walk when you know you are out, you should never gripe about being on the wrong end of a decision, and it does seem to me that some of todays players want it both ways.

Posted by: Shanoo Prabhakar on 07/21/2007

To walk or not can be debated till the end of time. But what was more important is the question that can the team in the pavillion influence the umpire to reconsider his decision once it has been given. This could very well set a dangerous precedent - every time a wrong decision is given, the batsman would do well to start off for the pavillion as slowly as possible, giving time for his team mates to check the replay and ask him to go back for a second opinion. Its fine to call Dhoni a cheat (whether he actually knew or not is debatable) but what about the English Team which questioned the umpire's decision. In some circles that is considered as dissent or is there different rules being applied here?

Posted by: S. Gupta on 07/21/2007

This was poor sportsmanship by Indians. Dhoni should do some explaining why he did not call peitersen back.

Posted by: Bashir Mirza on 07/21/2007

I applaud Kevin Peiterson for not hesitating before walking because he knew he had nicked, and saw Dhoni claiming the catch. On the other hand Dhoni should be ashamed of claiming a catch which he either knew was "bump" or had doubts about it. In either case he should have asked the umpire to check with the 3rd umpire. A Pakistani captain lost his reign when he claimed a bump catch!!

Posted by: srivathsan on 07/21/2007

The Action will be so fast that it is wrong to assume that the Wicket keeper has cheated.In the present case the evidence was not conclusive.The ball appeared to have hit the edge of dhoni's fingure which looked like bounce before settling in his glouse.poor fellow dhoni may be right in claiming but the benifit of dought was given to the batsman ,which is fair enough.So let us not bracket or brand him as a cheat.

Posted by: Disco Bob on 07/21/2007

We can presume that when an umpire gets it wrong that 50% of incorrect dismissals will be a batsman given out when he wasn't and 50% will be the batsman given not out when he was. Thus the bad decisions will balance out over time.

If however, a batsman always walks then ALL the incorrect decisions an umpire makes will go against him.

Posted by: Jamie Dowling on 07/21/2007

I'm a walker. Always have been, always will be and will always encourage other (especially junior) players to do the same. It's all about being honest. If I don't know whether or not I hit the ball then I won't walk. If I know I hit the ball and the catch is claimed then I will walk. Equally with catches, if I don't know whether or not the ball bounced before I caught it (catching is a rarity for those who've seen me play) then I won't claim it.

Since when has honesty been a silly ill-defined moral standard?

Posted by: Said Chaudhry on 07/21/2007

hah! Funny these articles only pop up when England is the victim of some injustice. Where was an article about Steve Harmison when he threw the stumps down as Inzy tried evading the ball, and then the entire England team had the audacity to jump and appeal for runout. Where was the *cricket spirit* then? How about when Ian Bell claimed a catch that bounced infront of him in the same match? England are equally guilty of foul play in the recent past so theres nothing to complain about here.

Posted by: P.Ozyman on 07/22/2007

Bob's article is entertaining. It doesn't deserve a metaphysical debate on morality or honesty in cricket. It is a sport for God's sake! I wholeheartedly agree with the view that batsmen should never walk; bowlers, slip fielders and keepers should appeal for all presumably nicked catches, bounced or not; and an lbw should be appealed at the slightest pretext, whether the bowler can 'see' what else the ball nicked before hitting the pad. After all, three umpires are part of the game; let them do their job. However, walking as a psychological strategy is something else, and I am all for it if it enhances the fun of the sport. Gentlemen against players? Don't fall for utter balderdash!

Posted by: rajesh on 07/22/2007

Dear sirs,

Let us get to the root of the problem. I mean the macro level of this problem. Presently cricket is played for money more than pride and a wrong decision can turn a match around. Instead of commenting and blogging we should have new rules in place before it is too late.
The rule must be " in case a batsman is given out by and umpire and if it come to light that the batsman has been wrongly given out for whatever the reason the umpire has the power to reverse his decision and recall the batsmen even if he has CROSSED THE BOUNDARY LINE" but before the next batsman faces the first delivery by the bowler. This law will take out all the ambuiguity regarding the fairness of a gentlemans gave and give it a reputation for a good and fair game of cricket. thanks and rajesh signing off.

Posted by: Saattvic on 07/22/2007

My dear Rob,

With all due respect, its people like you who make me fear that cricket might soon become a game like rugby or football, where anything and everything goes and people come to blows because someone cheats and tries to hide it.

Let's be clear about it. I'm not advocating the concept of a 'gentleman's game'. What I'm advocating is fair play. What I'm advocating is a pleasurable experience for both the viewer and the player. Any contest won by plain determined hard work gives more pleasure to the viewer and the competitor than one won by cheating.

Pietersen walked cause he had nicked it. Only a blind man would not have called that a nick. Dhoni celebrated cause he thought he'd caught it. To be fair, I think that he should have appealed instead of celebrating straight away. But then again, you can't argue that he knew he hadn't taken a clean catch. It happened in a fraction of a second, he was diving full length, and if you view the replays, his view of the ball was obstructed by his own gloves. Further, the ball bounced so close to him that it probably landed where the gloves ended and ground began. He would have felt the impact on his fingers, and assumed that the ball had bounced on his fingers.

In my view, it was up to the umpires to take action and verify that the catch was legal. Which is what the eventually did. Had told Pietersen to wait and checked earlier, none of this would have happened. Again, Pietersen walked because the umpires did not have any problem when the catch was claimed.

Oh, yes and I can't help but agree with Said Chaudhry's reply. Funny how you Brits will go to such great lengths to show subcontinental players in such bad light. You will latch on to straws to make a huge issue out of it. When was the last time you criticized Australia's 'psychological warfare' (read friendly banter) or Ashley Gilles' '5-feet-outside-leg' line to the Indians in 2002? Have you ever written an article in praise about the fact that Sachin Tendulkar, the man with the most runs in international cricket, always walks?

Posted by: Brian Cummins on 07/22/2007

As a club player, I expect my team to walk if I am umpiring, However, what if a professional knows that a Test selector is watching him, and he is wrongly given out for a duck in his first innings.Can he stand and complain to the umpire? Of course not, he must accept the decision. If he is wrongly given not out at the start of his second innings, do we really expect him to walk, and perhaps throw away any chance of a Test career? If he accepts the umpire's decision in the first innings, why not do so in the second?

Posted by: JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on 07/22/2007

Mr. Srivathsan you have given Dhoni the benefit of doubt and that is your patriotism speaking and, I won't blame you for that. Having watched that match live and seeing the so-called catch it in real time, I was sure that the ball didn't carry to Dhoni's glove and when I saw Simon raising his finger I was shocked at his decision. The replay confirmed he was not out, hence the decision was reversed. It is the technology that proved to be helpful in this case. As regards claiming of the catch as a genuine one, I won't blame Dhoni alone, all the close-in fielders got extremely emotional and appealed with similar zeal and enthusiasm 'coz they all badly wanted Pieterson's prized wicket. Simon Taufel's judgment was impaired, after all he is a human being, if he had said, "not out" it would have gone down as an appeal turned down and that's it. And we wouldn't have been discussing the issue of morality and cheating. I am of the opinion that cricket should be played in its true spirit and that is why it is called as a gentleman's game. That is another issue of morality when a gentleman cheats it is not referred as cheating but, it is considered as an attribute of the gentleman's quality and they say: 'Gentlemen Prefer Blondes.'

Posted by: calvin on 07/22/2007

I think that Sachin Tenduldar and Brian Lara are great exemplars. They walk when they nick it. Batsmen need to take a page from these guys, Lara would stand his ground if he didn't nick it or the catch appeared to be grassed, thus allowing the officials to do their jobs.

Imagine the records these two talented guys would have amassed if they never walked? But as batsmen they showed that you can still be competitive a allow fair-play to rule. Sadly though this isn't shown by some of the so-called better teams. I'm sure Steve Waugh and Ian Healy can attest to that!!!

Posted by: bharath on 07/22/2007

for Heavens sake guys please stop this subcontinent bashing shit .... btw im an indian... dude its an article written because an incident happened not because a sub continent player did it.... nowhere does it say subcontinent players are cheats !!!!! and FYI the whole pakistan thing is old and all teams are guilty of mis practices .. and it all evens up . in cricket compared to other sports you must have the bottle to face up to bad decisions sledging and hostility although u can remain a "gentleman" - nthng wrong with that....you play your game but do not crib.... and all asians out the please stop using ur racist trump card its getting lame .... btw im not even an Indian living in the west..

Posted by: Gul Khan on 07/22/2007

Firstly let me say I'm not a walker and I don't have time for cricketers who do walk. I have even less time for cricketers that occasionally walk. I can also honestly say that I have never question an umpire's decision when I do not feel I am out. I firmly believe that the umpire is always right and I have never shown any dissent to any umpire and hope I never will. We've all had good and bad decisions and we need to accept them whether we agree or not. The questioning of the umpire's decision by Pieterson at the behest of the England balcony was in my view disgraceful. I've seen KP not walk on a few occasions and I think good luck to him as he'll get bad ones too. Gilchrist's actions need to be put in to context; he was asked in an interview would he walk if Australia need 2 runs to win the World cup with 9 wickets down and he then nicked it, would he walk? his response is all telling "i wouldn't nick it".
Walking is a selfish act; its a team game and batsman are there to score runs for their team. Its not for them to decide when they want to stop scoring runs, its for the umpire to decide when he is no longer allowed to stay at the wicket to score more runs.
The most serious point is that walking undermines the umpire. They are there to do a job just as the 22 cricketers are there to do a job. Its always been said there are several ways that a batsman can be dismissed..bowled, caught, LBW etc, but there is actually only way that a batsman is out, and that is when the umpire raises his finger.

Posted by: Avishek on 07/23/2007

Let us be honest now. The idea that a batsmen is incapable of playing a long innings or ammassing huge totals if he walks is simple incorrect. Maybe the so called cricket experts should review the career of one Brain Charles Lara, 375 and 400 runs, even though he always walked. Pretty impressive dont you think? Anyway the decision to walk or not is a personal choice that each batsmen must make during his career. However please realise that as a cricketing fan and a person who beleives that the game as some ideals that are more important then the task of simply scoring runs we will always admire the batsmen who walks. He shows a certain level of integrity dont you think?

Posted by: Padma Laxman on 07/23/2007

This is a non issue if replays are used and players (both batsmen and fielding sides) can appeal.

It is screamingly obvious that replays and an appeal to replay system will be introduced at some point. What is the point delaying the inevitable?

Also the stat of "90%" success rate of umpires is misleading. One should consider only LBWs, caught behind and no balls and then see the metrics. Even Steve Bucknor can get the other decisions right most of the time.

Posted by: Chris on 07/23/2007

Good article. Its important to separate out amateur cricket (which I play) and the pro game. In my Sunday cricket, I believe one should walk (and I do) because the umpire on the other end is usually one of my teammates, and I think its not fair to put such pressure on someone who probably is struggling (as I do). But in pro cricket, it's fair enough to leave it to the umpire, as long as you don't then wave your bat around when there's an LBW appeal and you got a thin edge. And talking of thin edges, is there really any moral difference between claiming a catch on the bounce and appealing for an LBW when you know that there has indeed been an edge? Or a catch when you know there hasn't been one? Not in my book.

Posted by: Omeir on 07/23/2007

theres a larger picture to the "walk" debate. The article solely lays down issues related to International Cricket. But when you consider club divisional or ground level cricket, we are not equipped with fancy cameras, magnifying glass,walky talky, third umpires or "90% correct" umpires. For that system to survive you rely on players honesty. It is impossible for the umpire to know if the player has touched the boundry. International cricketers are role models and you expect them to set standards for the rest of us.

Posted by: akbar on 07/23/2007

Only Dhoni and GOd can tell whether Dhoni knew that the ball bounced.But what about English players giving their verdict from Balcony.Did they not dishonor the Umpire's decision.If a batsman is given out lbw and while walking back , the replays on ground screen show that there an edge or the ball was too high for lbw, then can he go back saying the decision was wrong?

Posted by: Ted Rose on 07/23/2007

We were brought up to think that "to walk or not to walk" was a very simple matter. There are two quite honest and straightforward views.
One: if a batsman hits a ball to a fielder who catches it, that is out, so you walk. It makes no difference whether the catcher is at mid off or wicket keeper. Two provios: (a) you have to know you hit it and (b) you have to be certain that the fielder caught it.
The alternative view is equally valid: once there has been an appeal to the umpire, it becomes his decision and nothing whatever to do with the batsman. The consequence here is that you can never, ever complain about that decision.

Posted by: Anu on 07/23/2007

I think this is for the first time Rain is helping Dravid from a disaster. Earlier he has lost a lot due to bad weather

Posted by: rishi on 07/25/2007

Not sure why there are so many emotional replies to your post. I guess, that's because morality is in question here :).
Dhoni is a -
Cheat => if he appealed despite knowing that the ball had grazed the ground.
Cheat => if he had doubts about the ball grazing the ground and still appealed.
Not a cheat => if he was actually convinced that ball didn't graze the ground and hence appealed.

This logic applies to all - batsmen, bowlers, fielders and wicketkeepers alike.

Rationally speaking, we don't know what is in player's mind when he, incorrectly or correctly, appeals or walks or doesn't walk. If the player is convinced about his observations and makes a decision based on that, then he should not be labelled a cheat just because replay proved otherwise.

To walk or not-walk (or to appeal or not appeal) is entirely upon player's situational judgement and we should verify them on rational, not moral, grounds.

Posted by: Sudarshan on 07/30/2007

Where are the english morals and highgrounds when
By Commenting that Dhoni claimed the catch is implying he is a cheat. Well guess what the English team is no less.
THE CHEAT Prior claimed a catch off Ganguly when the ball was no where near the bat...the pad or the anything else? WHO IS THE CHEAT NOW??

Posted by: Justen on 07/30/2007

You have to keep the balance between bat and ball.
If batsman are walking if they're out but aren't given, then fielding teams must call back batsmen if they're given incorrectly out.

Posted by: raj on 07/31/2007

Its funny how people are complaining about Dhoni's appeal, but where was all this complaining when Ganguly was given an incorrect decision and there was no doubt at all about him being out, the replays showed that the ball was nowhere near the bat.
Why didn't the keeper call him back then, why did he cheat and act like it hit the bat if anyone on that field would have known whether it hit the bat besides the batsmen it would have been the keeper.

Posted by: Untouchable Convict on 08/01/2007

As a batsman if you nick it, are not given out and don't walk, you are a cheat.

It's not if you win or lose, it's how you played the game.

That is cricket.

Integrity and honour should be championed. Any other point of view debases this great game.

Posted by: Geno on 08/01/2007

"Posted by: tinker 1 week, 4 days ago

Gilchrist walked in a semi final on a dodgy pitch, it's a joke to say he only walked because he knew his team were so good they could still win without him.

Don't attack the one honest man in cricket just to make your case for the crooks."

Anyone who has seen a decent amount of Australian cricket would never make the mistake of thinking that Adam Gilchrist is an honest man on the field. He walks when he wants to and he stands when he wants to, and he abuses other players for not walking even after replays have shown conclusively that they were, in fact, NOT out. Adam Gilchrist has his own agenda. If he wants to walk then let him, but do not confuse his walking at a blatant edge with honesty as he has on many numerous occasions stood very still after having made a faint tickle. If a player walks then great, more power to him, but if a player doesn't walk then he is doing nothing wrong. He is simply allowing the umpires to do their job. They are PAID good money to make these descisions. Sometimes they get them wrong, but the majority of the time they get them right and if you have any complaints about dodgey umpiring.. I suggest you take some lessons, step onto a field and see if you can do any better. Walk or don't walk, it makes NO difference to the game. Let the unmpires do their job.

Posted by: Ketan on 08/01/2007

Well, first of all Dhoni should not be singled out for this type of treatment - why has paul collinwood not singled out for appealing against the most appalling lbw decisions against sachin and then on receiving it why did he not call him back. The reason is simple - players have every right to appeal rightly or wrongly, it is the umpires job to judge. Players can be batsmen,bowlers and fielders but not umpires - it is not their job. Kevin walking was his own personal choice, that in a way undermines the umpires authority and can be classed as rebellious instead of gentlemanly. Cricket is as much about skill as it is about luck and chances. Every team has a right to grab all the chances they get to win a match. If sledging is valid then so is appealing.

Posted by: john on 08/01/2007

I really dont see how the Pietersen/Dhoni incident justifies not walking. I think in this case Pietersen should not have walked.

There are two aspect to a caught behind.

1. Did the batsman nick it?
2. Did the fielder catch it?

I think its the batsman moral duty to walk if he is clearly satisfied that both occurred.


In most cases the "catching" part is fairly straightforward and then without question its the batsman who knows best if he is out.

I am personally disgusted by batsmen who know they are out and stay, like whats his face who gloved it in Englands 2nd innings in the 2nd test

Posted by: Andy Tattersall on 08/01/2007

With regards to the case of whether a player walks. I think there needs to be some Duckworth-Lewis type equation where:
Certain resources are taken into consideration, such as batsmen (of those there are honest ones and dishonest ones).
There are certain situations (when a score is being built or chased)
There is the batsman score (less likely to walk on 5 then he is 50?)
There is the issue of time of play - is it 11.25am or 6.25pm?
How many letters does the batsman have ahead of his name?

With this we'd have a better chance if figuring out wether they'd walk.....if only we had a couple of mathematicians to work this formula out?

Posted by: Miten on 08/01/2007

The decision to walk or not to walk rests entirely upon the batsman. It isn't a question of morality when the decision maker has all the tools at his disposal to make the absolute correct judgement. Why should the batsman walk when he doesn't know whether the catch was taken cleanly or whether he has or hasnt made his ground when he can actually get confirmation on what exactly happened. If I know I edged a delivery and the umpire says not-out without refering to a TV replay, this is the umpire's blunder, not mine! I will walk if I am given out without complaining either way, technology allows for this now!!!!

Posted by: growltiger on 08/01/2007

I know I felt really sick when I saw Collingwood glove the ball down the leg side and not walk. He knew it had hit his glove (with that amount of compression, he must have felt it). And with that sort of nick, you know you have been done.

Posted by: Ud on 08/01/2007

Glichrist, our holier-than-thou friendly neighbour, is actually nothing but a mighty cheat.

Consider this -
by my reckoning, he has probably claimed over 200 catches that have never caught the edge, and been awarded at least 50 of these!

We always seem to remember his one instance of walking...but, that's just the Aussie propaganda machine at work. Put the 50 not-out batsmen who he has sent back to the pavilion vs the one instance of walking on the scales of justice, and, in a fair world, there's only one way it should tilt - the judgement should be - CHEAT.

Posted by: Geoff Bethell on 08/03/2007

Walking is purely a personal decision. The walker walks because he cannot live with himself if he does not. He accepts that the umpires owe him nothing in return and that the occasional bad decision will go against him. Walking for any other reason to me is just as bad as not walking - possibly worse.

Posted by: Lucky Mehta on 08/03/2007

well as far as fan of indian cricket.. i personally think it individual choice wether to live or not... for last 8 years i have seen so many players given out on wrong decision..so sometimes players thinks that way.. but as a cricket lover concern i really favour that player must walk away whenever they feells they r out...... i think in todays cricket australian wicketkepper batsman gilli is the best example for this.. i really admire n respect this cricketer.. no one can forget the semis of 2003 world cup when he wals off without waiting for umpire decision on the bowling off a spiner... i dont think even the umpire know that time that he's out... i dont think any other cricketer will do the same on that critical situation.. i personally thinks crickters like gilli should be given awards.. to still making cricket a genetelsman game.. otherwise its just only in words .cricket 's no more a genetels man game now.... hats off to gilli...i think all other crickters should take a lesson from him.... most other australians dont have same personality.. but in my perosonal opinon gilli is great in this aspect.. all n all walking off is good but it should leave on individuals... because sometimes umpires also make huge wrong decisions..

Posted by: lucky mehta on 08/03/2007

i think it should leave on inviduals.. i just wana give gilli example for this his decision to go off in world cup 2003 semis.. against S.L.. i think everyone should take a lesson from him.. hats off to him..he's really genius.. great cricket.. n still making this cricket a gentelmens game.otherwise it not remains such

Posted by: Gary Williams on 08/03/2007

As an American, who may be thereby disqualified from having a relevant opinion, I wonder
whether the very word "appeal", nearly unique to cricket (yes, in baseball there are
situations where a player may be given out only if there is an appeal, but those situations
are rather unusual), may not have some relevance. The presumption carried by the word seems to be that a batsman knows when he is out and will act accordingly. If this be correct,
then the umpire is there only as a higher authority to which appeal can be made if the
batsman does not carry out his obligation, whether due to dishonesty or to ignorance (as with a catch behind or a run-out he can't see because he is more or less face down sliding toward his ground).

Now, if the umpire was invented to protect the fieldsmen in cases of dishonesty or ignorance
on the part of a batsman, then it seems that a symmetrical presumption would be that an appeal will not be made unless the fieldsmen making the appeal have reason to believe that the batsman is out.

Of course, one might argue whether these presumptions were ever valid even when the ball was bowled underarm on a village green. And at the speed of today's game...well, it must not
infrequently be the case that neither the fieldsmen nor the batsman can really say with any
degree of certainty whether the batsman was lbw; and from what I read, often in such cases
neither do the umpires have a clue--but someone has to decide. Perhaps the very concept of
having to appeal for an out is obsolete, and the practice used in baseball should be adopted: if the umpire sees that a man is out, he gives him out; and otherwise he is not out, regardless of what anyone else may have observed.

gw

Posted by: Philip Kaye on 08/16/2007

I think walking is entirely a personal decision. I do admire most those like Jonty Rhodes who would walk without hesitation when he knew he was out and similarly walk without hesitation or a glance at the unpire when he was given out even when the decision was clearly incorrect. Claiming a catch when you know you havent caught the ball is simply cheating. I am sure that in some cases the wicketkeeper/fielder does not know for certain in which case an appeal is reasonable

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