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January 5, 2008

Posted by Mukul Kesavan on 01/05/2008 in Controversy

Ponting and the case against Harbhajan





Ponting, Harbhajan, Tendulkar and Gilchrist in conversation after Harbhajan's confrontation with Symonds © Getty Images

The Symonds affair and the charge of racial abuse laid against Harbhajan Singh by Ricky Ponting could change the way in which international cricket is monitored and regulated. I say ‘could’ because the affair could also pan out straightforwardly with punishment for Harbhajan and no general consequences for the game.

If there is any corroborative evidence (besides the testimony of Symonds, Matthew Hayden and Ponting) that Harbhajan used racist taunts when he responded to Symonds’ comments by confronting him on the field, Harbhajan should not only be banned for the period laid down by the ICC’s rules, the BCCI should put the spinner on notice: it should warn Harbhajan that any subsequent offence will result in his banishment from international cricket. The board equivocated in the matter of racist abuse from spectators in Vadodara and Mumbai; it mustn’t make that mistake again. Mike Proctor hasn’t revealed the specific comment(s) for which Harbhajan is charged, but the rumour in Australian newspapers is that Harbhjan called Symonds a monkey. Chetan Chauhan, the Indian team manager, has been reported saying that Harbhajan denies having said this; he is also reported as saying in the same breath that ‘monkey’ in Indian usage isn’t a derogatory word. If the report is accurate, this is exactly the kind of shiftiness that the touring team’s management should avoid. If Harbhajan called Symonds a monkey he should go down; preferably forever.

Newspaper reports seem to suggest that the umpires didn’t hear the exchange that gave rise to the charge. Channel 9 has reviewed its audio tapes and found no record of the offensive comments either. They do, however, have recordings of the subsequent chat which involved Hayden, Ponting, Sachin Tendulkar and Harbhajan. So it is possible that these tapes have Harbhajan referring to his comments, perhaps even apologizing for them. In the pictures that I saw while watching the telecast, I saw Harbhajan making what seemed to be conciliatory hand gestures. If he was apologizing and his apology contains the offending word and if that word is ‘monkey’ or something similarly racist, that should be evidence enough.

The other possibility is that in the course of the hearing, Tendulkar, who was batting with Harbhajan at the time and who seemed to have heard part of the exchange, isn’t able to whole-heartedly exonerate Harbhajan. It’s unlikely that he’d explicitly ‘shop’ a team-mate but Tendulkar’s an honourable man and if he heard Harbhajan flinging racist abuse about, he might be reluctant to perjure himself. This is an unlikely outcome: in his public statements about the spat, Tendulkar has said that he heard nothing objectionable said, but it’s just possible that in the grave context of a quasi-judicial hearing, his account of the incident might subtly change in ways unfavourable to Harbhajan.

However, if neither tape nor Tendulkar backs up the Australian charge, then international cricket’s in trouble. Hayden has been quoted as saying that the Australian’s have a very strong case. If the case is based on the kind of connections that are being reported in Australian press, the evidence is underwhelming. The Sun-Herald has reported that the Australian case will be based on the argument that Harbhajan is a ‘repeat offender’. The Australians will, apparently, allege that Harbhajan used the monkey taunt against Symonds in the seventh ODI in Mumbai in October. Michael Slater, who commented on that match, has backed up that claim. The trouble with this argument is that the Australian team didn’t lodge a complaint against Harbhajan at the time and I haven’t heard or read Slater going on record about Harbhajan’s Wankhede behaviour before the current crisis.

Given that Harbhajan and the Australians had tangled in the course of the series and Harbhajan had alleged after the 2nd ODI that the Australians had abused Indian players with ‘personal and vulgar’ words, the ‘repeat offender’ argument, without other corroborative evidence, will seem like a way of settling scores, rather than punishing bigotry. Harbhajan could equally argue that Symonds’ comments were part of a pattern of offensive Australian behaviour. This is what he said after the second ODI in India:





The Australians will, apparently, allege that Harbhajan used the monkey taunt against Symonds in the seventh ODI in Mumbai in October © Getty Images
“After the match Harbhajan was not laughing and said the Australians had shown themselves to be bad losers after their defeat to India in the semi-finals of the Twenty20 World Cup. "They clearly did not like that," Harbhajan said in the Sydney Morning Herald. "They are a very good cricket side, but that does not mean that they can do whatever they want to do. They say they play the game in the right spirit, but they don't in reality. There is nothing gentlemanly about the way they play."

After being dismissed by Michael Clarke in the 84-run loss, Harbhajan waited mid-pitch and pointed his bat. "I was responding to a lot of vulgar words that were said to me," he said. "I don't have any problem with chitchat on the field, so long as it is about the game. But when it is very personal and vulgar, that is not on. They think you cannot fight back and they do not like it when you do.”

Cricket has been down this road once before. Some years ago Rashid Latif was accused by Adam Gilchrist of calling him a ‘white c__t”. Latif denied the charge and was exonerated; it was his word against Gilchrist’s and there was no way of proving the charge. If the Harbhajan-Symonds dispute ends the same way, the consequences could be larger. If it turns out that Ponting made an accusation of racism which the Australians couldn’t back up, the accused Indians will be left with a lively sense of grievance and injury. There’ll be no shortage of people arguing that the Australians tried to opportunistically fit Harbhajan up in the middle of a closely contested Test match, or, more seriously, that Ponting recklessly used cricket’s adjudicatory process to intimidate and unsettle an opponent.

Australian cricketers famously leave on-field quarrels on the field. Ponting has chosen to take Harbhajan to ‘court’. Slater supports the decision because racism is unacceptable and he’s right. Racism is unacceptable. But if Ponting can’t come up with the evidence for a ‘conviction’, if his case is based on Symonds’ word and Harbhajan’s ‘prior form’, I can see players and officials asking for stump microphones to be left on all the time so that allegations of this sort in the future can be settled by technology. I can also see players retaining libel lawyers and disputes like this one being resolved in real law courts.

If Mike Proctor finds against Harbhajan, Indians might simmer awhile, but the Australians will have been vindicated. If he clears him, there’s a real chance that on-field chat will be systematically monitored in the future, and Ponting’s recourse to the match referee might well be remembered as the day Big Brother came to stay.

 
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Posted by: ganesh pal on 01/06/2008

why is nobody talking about what Symonds said to Bhajji. As the stats point out 80% of wrong decisions have gone in australias favour.. and symonds is no angel either.. we have all seen how he joins the banter and abuse club on the field and a few of the players who are testifying against bhajji.. namely hayden and clarke arent inncoent ducks on the field either.. so.. the final statement is this.. if the aussies like to punch then they should be read for a few blows as well.

Posted by: Charmin on 01/06/2008

Any sort of racial abuse should not be tolerated by anybody. It's a shame on Harbajan to get involed in such an incident having made significant impact on the Australian batting downfall and he can be one of the key player in the series.However, if Harbajan strongly denies that he didn't call Symonds monkey, this incident could have been settled in the ground without letting the mass media intervension.Considering the way this case evolved, it is evident what the aim of the complaint made by Ricky Ponting to the umpires. Once Glen McGrath called Sanath Jayasuriya a Black Monkey in 1995 during the match and the TV records showed evidence to that?Recently,South African team was let down badly by such incident and they didn't react to that by making formal complaint.Why?umpires get involved in these cases straightway without allowing players to settle the matter in the ground? if the umpires feel that the case going out of hands then they should get involved.What's the morale of the case?

Posted by: Kumar Abhinava on 01/06/2008

There are going to be no winners from this 'incident' and hearing but cricket will be the loser.
Also I have many (sour) grapes to mention : why there always seems to be double standards against the Indians. Yuvraj gets pulled up but Clarke and Ponting dont; Sehwag gets banned for excessive appealing but South Africans dont. May be Indians need to learn from Australia as how to sledge without being heard, how to build up the appealing to positively influence the Umpire (Warne being the master), when to walk and when not to walk to influence the Umpire (Gilchrist being the master). And why is Steve Bucknor still umpiring - its time to give him a good farewell.

Posted by: Courtenay on 01/06/2008

If Harbhajan did racially tauntSymonds, then he should be suspended. Simple as that. There is simply no excuse for such behaviour. Harbhajan's efforts in the 2001 series were amazing, however his recent antics mean he might be remembered for other "feats".

Posted by: Avanidhar Subrahmanyam on 01/06/2008

why exactly are these kesavans and vasus pandering to the anglo saxons that run cricinfo?

where are the incidents where McGrath called Jayasuriya a black monkey and Darren Lehmann called Sri Lankans black c---s? McGrath was never brought to heel and neither was there such a hue and cry. australians are no saints. sorry, but the term monkey in india is just not racist. i used to call my friends monkeys. the term "black monkey" certainly is. there IS a difference. shame on kesavan for not recognizing this.

indians are simply giving aussies a taste of their own medicine. get with the program!

Posted by: Kaiser Mukhtar from Hongkong on 01/06/2008

This doesn't seem to be pleasant case scenario for cricket as we know it was called a gentleman's game. But it doesn't look to be the same anymore. What i think is that if Harbhajan make any such comments then it should be dealt with properly(severely). But if its the other way round then the accusers be also given strong message not to behave as masters of the world. I fail to understand why did Symonds say anything to offend Harbhajan in the first place. If australlians couldn't get his wicket easily then they must infuriate the opponents to be outragious enough to say something offending to use it for settling the old score. Ricky Ponting's previous behaviour has not been exemplary when he often entanle with the umpires even and dictating his own mind. Anyway its not going to be fine with the game of cricket as Ponting has been supportive of the Fallen umpire Darrel Hair when he forteited the Oval test in favour of England arrogantly and didn't listen to anyone around. Regards.

Posted by: dsr on 01/06/2008

We don't know yet, what Harbajan said. But Australian team has always double standards. They want players to walk off the field, when they belive they were out. But they don't when comes to them. As tony Greig said, the sledging came from Australian team (from perth I believe), and when some body returned the same they didn't like it. I didn't mean that, when some body made racial comments, they shouldn't be punished. They should be punished, but there should be one standard. No double standards. They always try to get something into middle, when something going wrong for them.
Here two things, one thing is India are going ahead and Ponting is scared of Harbajan. So want to keep him low. Second thing, there were many incorrect decisions, and they want to divert the talk from them. And they have got something at right time, and they picked it nicely. I don't think their attitude is not right for the game.

Posted by: ganessinv on 01/06/2008

I think Mukul kesavan should know what is the truth before coming up with some prejudice on the matter. I think Mukul will become very unpopular in India. I have been watching cricket for a long time. Aussies are never a gentlemen. They are the most ugliest creatures when it comes to the gentlemen part of the game. Here in India we have a stupid writer, with full of imagination and accusing Harbhajan even though there is no concrete proof. Mukul please come out of the slavery. We got freedom in 1947 itself.

Posted by: Alex on 01/06/2008

Indians are not good with words...they take extreme steps to irritate opponents...stupid sreesanth and bhajji , if you are not good with mouth , shut your mouth and play and win the game...Talking is useless when you can't win. Bhajji and sreesanth are bad role people for any youngesters to copy. You can sledge as long as it is funny , indians are not funny...they get emotional and angry. That shows weakness and inability talk good with words. If you can't talk , just play.

Posted by: Aditya on 01/06/2008

I do not support what Harbhajan did. But if he called Symonds a monkey I believe there is nothing wrong with it. If Symonds has taken offence to it then its his problem. I believe there cannot be two standards for us and them. If somebody had called us monkey nothing would have been done about it.

Posted by: Prash on 01/06/2008

interesting article. In my opinion, the current australian team are very bad losers! they do not have my respect like the days when AB played. Ponting is very devious and has always come across as a person who will stoop to any level, to get an advantage. I have watched the 2nd test, and all I have seen is the likes of clarke, gesturing and trying to annoy the indians. The watch tapping incident. Then when Clarke got out for a duck, he refused to go. Ponting was out twice in the first innings, and Symonds had the umpires help in reaching his test hundred. Should the Aussies be the ones complaining?

Posted by: Fanon on 01/06/2008

Yes harbajan might be guilty of derogatory comments, but how ironic is it that innumerable incidents that it is the self-righteous sanctimonious Australians who are accusing cricketers from a 'coloured' country for racially abusing one of their 'own'. And will Symonds come to realise how offensive his 'black-face' on-field persona is. Athletically gifted he may be but black Americans in particular would look upon him with great bewilderment. Is this guy taking the mickey or what? He seems more caricature, a cross between sideshow Bob and Al Jolson, on steroids. Expect him any moment to go on bended knee and wail 'oh mammy'. He sort of is at the moment. Oh mammy I been wronged, i.e.. Harbajan appears to be as witless. Whatver happened to the Indian way of letting the bat and ball do the talking and walking. Like Tendulkat, Laxman,and Dravid, and evn Ganguly. Gandhi said an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. meeting agression with agression only escalates violence

Posted by: anon on 01/06/2008

What if Harbhajan is not guilty? (I guess he is guilty and he knows it too)Will the Aussies apologise? Will Indians sue them for defamation?
I guess the Aussies have taken winning at all costs a bit too far

Posted by: Parikh on 01/06/2008

Unfortunatley, racism is indeed prevalent in all the countries. India is no exception. This "holier than thou attitude" from Aussies is surprising as they have a long legacy of racism against non whites.I vaguley remember Lehman had similar incidence against I believe Jayasuria a few years ago. I do not think that Lehman suffered any sever penalty in that episode.
One has to wonder the motivation of Aussies in unsettling Harbhajan by inciting him to do dumb things.

Posted by: Herman on 01/06/2008

I have to disagree with you totally. What ever happend to Australia saying "whatever happens on the field stays on the field?"

Someone obviously must have said something to Harbhajan in the first place, they were really frustrated with the partnership.

How can you say to get rid of Harbhajan forever? So what if he said to Symonds. "stop acting like a monkey" how is that racist?

Australian's have given touring sides a hammering when they come here. Yet nothing happens.

Also if Tendulkar said nothing happend and it was in the spirit of the game, then whats the problem? THe umpires didn't hear anything aswell!

Harbhajan I feel did nothing wrong, Aussies were just frustrated with the partnership. Do you honeslty think Harbhajan said something to Symonds just randomly?????

Can't believe you said to get rid of him forever. Even Ravi Shastri is backing the Indians.

Posted by: Dario on 01/06/2008

I find it ironic that the Australians are complaining of racism. Look at the historical record-they have almost wiped out a whole native, indigenous people. Totally destroyed them-and these same people are complaining? LOL.
I live in Australia and everday Indians have to deal with racism. Indians in Harris Park and Westmead (Sydney's West) have been routinely targeted.
Now back to cricket-the Australians have an appalling reputation-ask anyone in World Cricket-ask the former members of the Indian team and they are crying racism. Go to any cricket game in Oz and you will hear a bunch of racist comments from the Aussie spectators-yet if an Indian responds to Aussie sledging he is a 'racist'. Australians are hypocrites-everyone supported Symonds not walking yet if a overseas player had done that they would have been screaming murder-saying that's not the "Aussie Way".

Posted by: Dario on 01/06/2008

I find it ironic that the Australians are complaining of racism. Look at the historical record-they have almost wiped out a whole native, indigenous people. Totally destroyed them-and these same people are complaining? LOL.
I live in Australia and everday Indians have to deal with racism. Indians in Harris Park and Westmead (Sydney's West) have been routinely targeted.
Now back to cricket-the Australians have an appalling reputation-ask anyone in World Cricket-ask the former members of the Indian team and they are crying racism. Go to any cricket game in Oz and you will hear a bunch of racist comments from the Aussie spectators-yet if an Indian responds to Aussie sledging he is a 'racist'. Australians are hypocrites-everyone supported Symonds not walking yet if a overseas player had done that they would have been screaming murder-saying that's not the "Aussie Way".

Posted by: deathcraker on 01/06/2008

2 things here -
FIRST - abuse is abuse - it should not be discriminated as racial abuse, personal abuse, etc.Accoss the boundaries of countries, the classification of abuse 'll also vary. Monkey chants in India by no ways classified as racial, unless human race and animal race are the only races considered. Across different nations playing cricket you cannot have laws saying personal abuse is OK, race or color is not! Whatever harbhajan spoke may humiliate aussies, what they do definitely humiliates other teams. The rules should be more generic among the cricket community, not as per the british or australian definition of abuse.
SECOND- aussies are master at abusing, they have done it more than anybody else.Indians have replied them in their own way. All teams do it to some level but aussies take it to different level, and they have now taken it to officials. Chanderpaul didnt go to match refree crying when McGrath said to him bad things. Very poor attitude shown by world champions.

Posted by: Ankur on 01/06/2008

Mukul, you are a big time loser, instead of writing an article about supporting Indian cause, you are in way implying that Harbhajan said Monkey. Shame on you.....

Posted by: harry on 01/06/2008

Hey,
What non-sense you are writing? Haven't you witnessed how Aussies abuse the other team. They think they are the supreme and cannot take if someone challenges them with the play. When they are defeated in the field, they use the vulger language. Same on you writing the arcticle. Last time I have read you.

Posted by: Anady Singh on 01/06/2008

Mr. Kesavan you have lost it. There is no proof and you want to believe the Aussie media. It is people like you who are responsible for Indians taking ... How do you know Harhajan did it? Wait for the hearing before posting.

Posted by: Abrem Sakar on 01/06/2008

Firstly your whole premise is wrong. So what if Symonds was called a monkey? Monkey is NOT used in a racist manner in India. Kids call each other monkey when teasing. "Bholo, bhaloo, bandar" all = monkey.
Secondly, Symonds looks like a monkey, it is simple fact. The Indians have found a way to tease him and it really gets to him; so be it. Symonds simply can't tkae it and so the Aussies are claiming "racism" becuase of its emotiveness and subequent press it has conjured up.
Finally, and let us not forget, all the swaering the Aussies do on field and have done in the past. They're getting a bit of their own back and can't handle. Tough luck.

Posted by: Shaun on 01/06/2008

What Australians fail to realize is what is considered minor chit chat in their part of the globe might be considered extremely offensive in other parts of the world. Ricky Ponting and his boys with the exception of Gilchrist is not the beacon of "gentlemanly game" that is called cricket. Bloody hypocrites.

Posted by: Sachin Tendulkar on 01/06/2008

aussies are a bunch of hypocrites. when they start flustering, they resort to such low levels. symonds can dish it out, but when it's his turn to take some, he cries foul. grow up "mite". if you want to use your mouth, be prepared to take some too. don't act like a 5 year old who likes to make fun of others but gets mad when someone pokes fun back at him.

Posted by: Bharath on 01/06/2008

I completely agree with you that racial comments have no place anywhere, let alone cricket. When I saw the conversation between the umpires and Bajji, the first impression I got was of complete shock in bajji's face, because probably he was told by the umpires that the aussies alleged he made a racist comment. So I will still wait for the results to come out of the tribunal and its hearing. Along the same lines, I feel ICC should take a much sterner step than just stopping with racist slurs. It should ban the use of foul language as well, esp. the likes of the four letter word. Its not fair that what is offensive to the aussies are the only ones that are banned while asian players are continuously subjected to abuse that they cannot bracket as being racist. Calling me a M****** F***** is equally offensive to me, even though its not racist in nature. I think the aussies have opened a Pandora's Box and addressing this will be beneficial to all that like cricket for what it is, a game.

Posted by: rao on 01/06/2008

This is just rubbish. We don't know what Harbhajan said. We do know that the Australians frequently talk about players' wives in vulgar ways. Why is that just sledging? There is a cultural context. In India, monkey can even be a God, regardless of what the Australains say it is not racist. Saying something does not make it true. By way of anaology, Americans think it peculiar that Hindus regard beef as unacceptable,and so ban cow slaughter in many parts of India. But they accept it perfectly normal that horse slaughter is banned in Texas, even though in many other countries horse meat is acceptable. That is double standards, and the Australians are doing it so as to get Harbhajan off Ponting's back. They need to stop sledging before they can say monkey is racist.

Posted by: Juned on 01/06/2008

I have been staying in the U.S. for the past couple of years and I have seen how some Indians here have absorbed the discourse of racism. Some of the brown folk here have a visceral antipathy towards black folk. Since many more Indians have become world travelers these days, a dummies guide to Racial History would be a useful guide for them. It'll also be useful to the Australian cricketers and their fans who seem to think they have overcome racism and are in fact victims of it! As far as the specific case of Harbhajan Singh is concerned, I don't think he should "go down forever". In fact, I think a more constructive 'punishment' would be to make him read a book on 'racial history' and ask him to give a 10-minute presentation to his team members!

Posted by: Ravi kissoon on 01/06/2008

I cannot understand this Australian team , they have a trend with doing and saying what they want to other teams but cannot handle anything being said to them.. Tell me how come nothing came out of the Mc Grath and Sarwan spat that went on for almost a minute and nothing came out of that..
If not for really poor umpiring decisions this Australian team would have been out for 250 or less and the world saw it live . So they they should shut up and stop complaining like spoil kids. They should be thanking these two umpires for all their support ..

Posted by: Mahi on 01/06/2008

Mukul i kind of disagree with you here, The Australians have been known to be quite active on the field when it comes to sledging, Now when its their turn they are making a deal of a small thing. I agree that there should be no racism in cricket, if Harbhajan found guilty should be punished.. but we can not let it happen with Aussies.. They have always attacked the players with the personal or vulgar comments that should also have come under the breach of ICC then, McGrath had previously attacked ganguly about his personal lifem, Did india file any complaints? And part of the reason for complaint is that its Bhajji and Ponting does not want to miss the opportunity to get Bhajji out of the next game to have a better chance of staying at the wicket.

Posted by: Mike Hunt on 01/06/2008

There's the old story about the elephant and the mahoot who were carrying some Westerners through the jungle when the elephant stopped to put a large trunk full of droppings in his mouth. "Why is the elephant doing that?" exclaimed one of the white ladies.
"Because yesterday he ate a lawyer and wants to remove the foul taste from his mouth." replied the mahoot.

What you're saying essentially is that Harbhajan is only guilty if he gets caught. If he called Symonds a monkey but only the Australians heard it, then the fault lies with the Aussies. If he called Symonds a monkey and it's picked up on the microphones or Tendulkar heard it, only then is he at fault.

Sounds awfully like something a lawyer would say, Mukul.

Posted by: Sumit Gupta on 01/06/2008

I think its fair to say that Australians did this deliberately to unsettle Harbhajan in teh middle of the match. Especially afer the hold which Harbhajan had on Ricky Ponting. He is his BUNNY. I hope I am not being accused of racist now

I always hated Ricky Ponting but admired Australian team in general as a champion side. this incident leaves a bad taste in mouth

In my view this team are not a bunch of champions , but just big BULLIES and LIARS . (I thought I will never say this but Gilchrist included, Ponting, Symonds, Clark and Hayden were always like this. Unless this bunch of 4 tricked Gilchirst by even lying to him. I held that man in great esteem)

This team has lost my respect atleast

Posted by: Rakesh Jani on 01/06/2008

Nice article Mukul,yes you are right They can't convict Harbhajen based on the statements made by pointing and co. Australians Are Sore Losers, First of all i am sure it must be Symonds Who must have started this and when They got back something back from Harbhajen they started Whining. Grow Up Aussies we all Know What tactices they apply On their Opponents.

Posted by: Sumit Gupta on 01/06/2008

I think its fair to say that Australians did this deliberately to unsettle Harbhajan in teh middle of the match. Especially afer the hold which Harbhajan had on Ricky Ponting. He is his BUNNY. I hope I am not being accused of racist now

I always hated Ricky Ponting but admired Australian team in general as a champion side. this incident leaves a bad taste in mouth

In my view this team are not a bunch of champions , but just big BULLIES and LIARS . (I thought I will never say this but Gilchrist included, Ponting, Symonds, Clark and Hayden were always like this. Unless this bunch of 4 tricked Gilchirst by even lying to him. I held that man in great esteem)

This team has lost my respect atleast

Posted by: Amarta on 01/06/2008

"Monkey" or bandar in hindi is not a racist word in India. I do not see any reason why harbhajan shoud be punished for saying such a word.In that same breathe then people should be penalised when ganguly is called a bengal tiger or new zealanders are called kiwis. even australians are called kangaroos. why should anybody being referred to as an animal mean racist. I am calling you Mukul a bandar for writing such a foolish article please register a racism case against me.

Posted by: sidpat on 01/06/2008

Let's not jump to conclusions here. The article discusses elaborately what should be done in case Bhajji is found guilty. In the same breath,shouldn't we discuss about the defamation suit against Symonds and Ponting if there is no hard evidence? And probably a ban of 4 tests? I have lived in US and observed that many times the accusations of racism root from the inferiority complex deeply fostered in the minds of the races that were downtrodden by other races for ages. Often anything said to a person of such race even for a valid reason is equated to racism either genuinely misunderstanding the comments or it is a ploy to satisfy some vested interests. I think Australians and even ICC also need a bit of training in seeing through this 2nd possibility. I don't understand how Mukul came to these conclusions,1.Sachin has not wholeheartedly backed Bhajji 2.Aussies famously leave onfield quarrels on field. They are in fact famous for their gamesmanship(not sportsmanship)on & off the field.

Posted by: Digjam on 01/06/2008

I am not sure in what way, calling Monkey is raccial abuse. In fact it is insult to Monkey race.

Saying all, Its already clear that only 5 Ausis are talking about the abuse. I dont think its going to bring out any result.

But one of them should be punished. If Harbhajan is not found gulty then Symond and Pointing must pay for accusing Harbhajan.

They must pay to it because they tried to disturb Indian team by allegations in the middle of the game.

One must pay either Harbhaja or Pointing and Symond.
If no one is punished then ICC is mare bunch of Jokers sitting to make money.

Digjam

Posted by: sledger on 01/06/2008

It's pretty obvious that when a touring team goes down under they're up against the Australian team, the umpires and the Aussie media who stir up and concote false rumours and innuendo.
This was pre-planned by Ponting who wants to get rid of Harbhajan because he cant play him. Symonds is a fake and that's why Indians dont like him. Hell my wife who doesnt know much about cricket doesnt like him because he is a cheat and a slimy character-let's see if Mukul has the guts to put up this post.

Posted by: rext on 01/06/2008

First Point. Harbhajan was not charged by Ponting, but by the two onfield Umpires! Second point. Kumble and Ponting were instructed by the Match Referee prior to the MCG Test that all and any comments, or reports of comments, either on the field or from the crowd were to be reported to the Field Umpires. Not to do so would have made either Kumble or Ponting subject to disciplinary action by the ICC.Ponting has not chesen to take Harbhajan to court as you state in your attempt to deflect responsibility on to Australia to feed misplaced nationalism! Guilt or innocence is not yours, or mine, to determine and that includes Ponting as well as Singh.

Posted by: K on 01/06/2008

it is well known that australia has a habit of provoking their opponents on the field. for one, a racist comment might be offensive whereas for another, a comment regarding family, etc. might be considered just as offensive. as it is, what might be considered as an insult in one culture is found to be a standard inclusion of the vernacular in another culture. so how is it to be determined that a word used by one person is racist when in their own homeland, to call one someone a "monkey" is not to make fun of their appearances - rather, it is considered to be an insult of their intelligence? so to sit there and penalize someone for using a phrase that is not offensive in their own vernacular is ludicrous. especially after that person has realized that this word, that is to mean one thing for him, takes on a new, perhaps offensive, meaning for someone else, and is then cognizant enough to make amends. and to not recognize that an effort to make amends was made is just inequitable.

Posted by: Vishnu Pareek on 01/06/2008

If Harbhajan said what he has been accused of then why not Brett Lee testifying who was closer to the incident than either of those who are. Is it a coincidence that all of these are the one who have feared Harbhajan at times. Australians should file a patent for sledging because it appears they are the only one who are entitled to do. Your comment are certainly biased from that point of view - while we cannot call anyone a monkey but how is it racial. Finally, nobody is talking about Andrew Symonds' comments before the Indian series when he reportedly said that Indian cellebrations were triggering "animal instinct". What were Indians doing wrong then? And shouldn't a celeberity like Symonds be more responsible in commenting to avoid these unfortunate events.

Posted by: Aubrey Chatellier on 01/06/2008

If Mike Proctor finds Harbhajan guilty of racist abuse, then he should be dealt with very sternly. However if he is proved innocent of all charges and it is just another mind game used buy the Aussies to intimidate their opponents and also to take the attention away from the blundering umpires, which obviously went in the Aussies favour,then Symonds and Ponting should be charged for wrong accusations and deformation of character. This case has very funny ring to it as the Aussies known for their sledging and on feild verbal abuse in any sport they play suddenly find the roles reversed and they are not used to takeing it in as much as dishing it out.

Posted by: Sameer on 01/06/2008

I really dont understand how being called a monkey could be classified as a racial abuse. In India, even toddlers in school use the word monkey or "bandar" when referring to someone as stupid in a rather playful manner. Than Indians rever the monkey god is another case in point. Its considered a sin to kill a monkey, even accidently.
On the side, the f word is prohibited. You cant use it in civil society, no matter what. So is the case with "bloody". You routinely see cricketers, more so the Australians, using the F word. Thats not all. Australians have this habit of attaching "bloody" to every thing under the sun. Shouldnt we take offense to that.
Laughable in my opinion that the most abusive team in the world, one which is hated for its on field abusive behaviour is complaining like a cry baby.
This might just be a joke but there has been a suggestion that Harbhajan might well have called Symonds "Maa Ki", which is a hindi abuse meaning Mother F&*, but one which sounds like monkey.

Posted by: Mohan on 01/06/2008

This is a shameless trial by media and in this blog the author has already indicted Bhajji. The author lacks an iota of unbiasedness and seems to be some wanna-be-white guy.

Posted by: Aravindha on 01/06/2008

Time and again, it has been shown that Australians are sore losers. I am very surprised that the author has joined the Australian bandwagon to support the villification of Harbajan. Why draw distinction between racial taunts and verbal abuse that the Australian indulge in. If we are coming down heavy on Harbajan on his "alleged" remarks should we not go a step further and ban any comments on the field that is considered to be against the batsman.

Shame on the author for producing a biased report and judging Harbhajan when there is no evidence to convict him.

Posted by: Hindustani on 01/06/2008

Hi,
I was shocked to hear the sad demise of sportsmanship on the field. Harbhajan was playing so good. I do not fear to say that Aussies need to be be educated on lessons of conduct. All of us could see the frustration on the pace battery of Australia and when harbhajan was enjoying knocking them off they started slandering. If crowds in india passes racist comment then its not the team problems. I bet the Aussies does it too. In fact this is the scene everywhere.
If there is any action on Harbhajan I would consider this as a murder of true sportsmanship.

Enjoy the match.
GOOD LUCK TO HARBHAJAN...HE DID WHAT WAS NEEDED TO BE DONE

Posted by: John on 01/06/2008

Why does Mr Kesavan feel that Harbhajan should go down forever when Darren Lehmann went down for next to nothing. I think that Harbhajan would never have indulged in this sort of banter if not for the equivalent garbage that the Aussies throw out at their opponents. The bottom line is that the Aussies can never take to the level that they give, they're racist and should be taunted in equal measure every single time to put them in their place. Every time an Indian commentator or reporter supports them they're just becoming another case of Uncle Tom in the history of cricket.

Posted by: Aman on 01/06/2008

Why does Australia get to decide what is appropriate on a cricket field and what is not? If calling someone a 'monkey' deserves a ban, then anytime a player swears at someone or refers to their family in any manner, they should also be banned (preferabley forever (according to Mukul). I would rather be called a monkey rather than have abuse thrown at me from all quarters. This incident has shown that the Australians are sore losers who can't take the heat when someone stands upto them. Bravo Ponting for showing your true colours, keep crying, you are doing Australia proud!

Posted by: Pete on 01/06/2008

A very good analysis of the current fracas. I personally don't think the Aussies would just make it up, and Chetan Chauhan's comments make me think he probably said it, but probably doesn't quite have his head round what a terrible word it is to call a black man, and I think the Aussies would normally leave it on the field. However I'm sure from reading the same stuff as me an Indian fan will conclude the Aussies are evil so-and-sos who are up to their usual gamesmanship tactics. Hopefully ther is some conclusive evidence either way, but I fear this will simmer. Leaving the stump mics on but not feeding the audio through to live coverage is surely the way to go so this doesn't happen again.

Posted by: ruchit on 01/06/2008

if harbhajan used the word monkey then it is not racist in in indian parlance. aussies themselves absolve themselves of several sledging accusations having aleedgedly racist overtones by stating that in their culture the usage of a particular word is not racist and i guess that is fair enough. so if it was monkey what harbhajan said then racial abuse theory is stuoid argument. if anything else and is genuinely racist then he ought to be reprimanded but no more than Mc´Grath was for calling Jayasuriya a black monkey. here monkey was not racist its coupling with black made it racist. if bhaji is unfairly sentences for something such stupid then it would be time for bcci to flex its muscles and shows the Aussies their place.

Posted by: Balaji on 01/06/2008

Mukul, the tone of your article almost finds Harbhajan guilty. You should be careful while writing such articles. Please be aware that Australian cricketers and the least well mannered players of all the cricket playing nations. We need to weigh in that factor as well. Also it's time we Indians started thinking we're as good as any one else and stop endorsing whatever others say without carefully considering all the aspects.

Posted by: Nirmal on 01/06/2008

Mukul,

With the advent of technology, cant the match refree's keep a micro phone with every player (including the 12th man and support staff) and then check the same in background if something has to verified?

Aussies are known for their idiotic attitude on & off field and try to unsettle the oppositions thru some or other comments.

I definitely agree that any racist comment by any team player should be seriously taken and serious punishments should be laid out so that player excerise caution in future.

But with latest technology i am sure match refree is in a much better position.

Posted by: ruchit on 01/06/2008

if harbhajan used the word monkey then it is not racist in in indian parlance. aussies themselves absolve themselves of several sledging accusations having aleedgedly racist overtones by stating that in their culture the usage of a particular word is not racist and i guess that is fair enough. so if it was monkey what harbhajan said then racial abuse theory is stuoid argument. if anything else and is genuinely racist then he ought to be reprimanded but no more than Mc´Grath was for calling Jayasuriya a black monkey. here monkey was not racist its coupling with black made it racist. if bhaji is unfairly sentences for something such stupid then it would be time for bcci to flex its muscles and shows the Aussies their place.

Posted by: Vijay Gopalakrishnan on 01/06/2008

Mukul, very interesting article. However, I would like your views on what you have to say about the very frequent hurling of racist sledges by teams like Australia(masters at it), England, South Africa at their opponents. You have not been mentioned anything about it, and left the discussion incomplete, in my view.

Again: How do you think that the two umpires on the field did not hear or even notice anything?

Here is what I really feel happened:
*Symonds unwarrantedly antagonised Indian fans during the series in India last year, by downplaying India's T20 victory unnecessarily. *The crowd for the Vadodara ODI gave back to Symonds by calling him "monkey" not due to racial reasons, but because he had lip cream on always (I dont think many Indians even know the words "Autralian aborginee").
*Symonds inflamed the situation through his articles and sledging of Pathan etc-Indian players and crowds in mumbai reacted
*AUS unfairly used all this to try banning bajji

ur views pls

Posted by: madan verma on 01/06/2008

all I can say australians can not digest what is being dished out to them "tit for tat" new india generation is not all about godly-godly or say meek. so they deserve what they are due for.mr mukul never commented this strong when in 2001 michael slater abused rahul over a "cheated" catch.ther are umpteen examples of such in the past on australlian side.
thanks.

Posted by: VKG on 01/06/2008

If it is ok for media to say Ponting is a Harbhagan's "Bunny" then what is wrong with calling Andrew a "Monkey". Besides Australians always play dirty against every visiting team, let them get the taste of their own medicine. Play the game with bat and ball not with dirty mouth.

Posted by: madan verma on 01/06/2008

all I can say australians can not digest what is being dished out to them "tit for tat" new india generation is not all about godly-godly or say meek. so they deserve what they are due for.mr mukul never commented this strong when in 2001 michael slater abused rahul over a "cheated" catch.ther are umpteen examples of such in the past on australlian side.
thanks.

Posted by: subh on 01/06/2008

The tone of your article suggest that Harbhajan the bad guy!!! Why are you trusting aussies...they have history of saying bad things to opponents and you guys (read reporters) seem to find faults with other teams (read sub-continent teams).

Argh...oh god..these hypocritical reporters.....

Posted by: Raj on 01/06/2008

The article is heavily loaded against Harbhajan in first place. Australians are no saints. The ICC does not book any Australian for sledging. The so called top umpire Steve Buknor loses his faculty of judgement only against Indians. Symonds must be booked for dishonesty. He should have walked out when he knew that he edged Sharma. So the game of cricket is not for the saints. So Harbhajan has done nothing wrong and you have no proof to nail him. It's better to leave the issue and probably admonish both the players and ICC must formulate new laws to protect the game.

Posted by: Vab on 01/06/2008

How is monkey racist?? How does this relate to Symond's race, religion, appearance or culture. Remember when the Australians called Sanath Jayasuriya a "black bastard?" - that was racist. However, the Australians were not at all rebuked for this. Now, when the heat is supposedly on the Australian team, they can't take it. So much for "what happens on the field stays on the field."

The West Indies were dominant in the latter part of the last century. However, everybody loved their team. Why? Because they were good sports.
All countries despise the Australian team for their vulgar attitude on the field, yet the Australians continue to harass opposing teams.

I went to the recent MCG test match. The filth that the Australian supporters were saying to the Indian team was absolutely attrocious. They were horrendous towards Sourav Ganguly, attacking his race, culture and family. Moreover, an Australian policemen standing nearby was laughing at this.
Aussies are hypocrites, go harbajan

Posted by: kannan venugopal on 01/06/2008

thats pretty disappointing,mukul.you seem to implicate arbhajan , while at te same time stating that there is no prima facie case against him.of course, racism has no place anywhere in life, foget the playing field alone.but i cant see if being taunted racially is any worse than personal abuse, which is what the australians are past masters at and then name it mental disintegration.i have one thing to tell the aussies.. if you cant stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen.

Posted by: Vab on 01/06/2008

How is monkey racist?? How does this relate to Symond's race, religion, appearance or culture. Remember when the Australians called Sanath Jayasuriya a "black bastard?" - that was racist. However, the Australians were not at all rebuked for this. Now, when the heat is supposedly on the Australian team, they can't take it. So much for "what happens on the field stays on the field."

The West Indies were dominant in the latter part of the last century. However, everybody loved their team. Why? Because they were good sports.
All countries despise the Australian team for their vulgar attitude on the field, yet the Australians continue to harass opposing teams.

I went to the recent MCG test match. The filth that the Australian supporters were saying to the Indian team was absolutely attrocious. They were horrendous towards Sourav Ganguly, attacking his race, culture and family. Moreover, an Australian policemen standing nearby was laughing at this.
Aussies are hypocrites, go harbajan

Posted by: Shiva on 01/06/2008

I think racisim in cricket is unacceptable. However, it should also be taken into consideration the serious sledging the Australians do. Anyone found guilty of defaming the game should be punished. So Steve Bucknor, the third umpire, and Symonds should be punished. Symonds openly admitted that he knicked the ball. So punish all those to make cricket once again a Gentleman's game. Let's not go the way of Soccer, Rugby and ice hockey.

Posted by: Narendra on 01/06/2008

Aussies behave like kids in school going to teacher crying and sobing....very unAustralian..sore loosers they are....

Posted by: Sunil on 01/06/2008

Get real.
Aussies are worst at mouthing off. Its only offensive and against the spirit of the game when it doesn't suit them. I think its pontings tactics against Harbhajan. Over the years one could easily make out what people like Mcgrath and, Warne and may others have said. You don't even need a stump microphone etc just their mouth movement was enough. Aussies have all the sudden forgotten one of their favourite slogan "what ever happens on the field stays on the field".

Posted by: Vivek Sharma on 01/06/2008

I must say that I am quite appalled by the comments of Mukul Kesavan (The Case Against Harbhajan). He seems to have drawn his own conclusions based on fictitious facts and exposed his plain bias for Harbhajan. Reports coming out of media here in Australia this morning suggest that it might have been another case of Aussie team stepping out of line and taking their bully tactics to an unwarranted level. Do not forget that they like to play mind games. It is just that this time they have stooped too low. They have exposed their dark side and what we see does not go with either the spirit of the game or their position in the work cricket. True Champions uphold basic human values and out integrity and honesty before anything else.

Mukul Kesavan clearly has no idea of the sledging Aussies use on the field. If everything of what the Aussie cricket team does or says is reported, the whole team will get banned for life, barring perhaps Gilchrist.

Vivek Sharma
Melbourne

Posted by: Abry on 01/06/2008

This is a genuinely stupid article. The Australians have a history of abusing players racially - try asking Vivian Richards about it. Moreover they have been systematically targeting Harbhajan Singh since the series in India. This is no doubt a continuation of the same.

Harbhajan may or may not have called Symonds a monkey, but how does it constitute racial abuse, Mr. Kesavan? Sure, racial abuse should not be tolerated. But why should we accept the Aussies' contention that the apellation of "monkey" is a racial epithet? This is a clear case of the Aussies trying to twist the existing laws in order to intimidate and break an opposition player. We should be united in condemning the Aussie tactics, instead of calling for Harbhajan's head. The Aussie media have all fallen behind Ponting in baying for Bhajji's blood. It's time for all sensible people to rally behind Bhajji.

I therefore condemn his stupid and misguided article.

Posted by: sujith on 01/06/2008

i seriously think that mr mukul kesavan if u r an indian u should learn to support ur side . australians can do anything and they get away and the second we indians do something our indian reporters make it soo big that it looks like u r australians too badd and really bad report bug off

Posted by: Suneel on 01/06/2008

Mukhul sir, do you know what kind of bad language members of Australian cricket team use. It is very easy to sit on and write an article asking for very severe punishment. You are in fact asking for taking Harbhajhan out forever :-) You must know better. Even deaf guy (from lip movement) can understand what kind of language Austrian team used starting from early 2000.

It would be ideal if Harbhajhan is not given any punishment at all. If you want to see harsh punishments lets start with Australian team first.
I am sure ICC won't take any actions against Australia members neither they care about quality of umpiring.

Posted by: Narendra on 01/06/2008

Aussies behave like kids in school going to teacher crying and sobing....very unAustralian..sore loosers they are....

Posted by: Dr Iyer on 01/06/2008

A legal expert's view:
- There should be no presumption of Singh's guilt.
- According to the media, the umpires did not hear it. So it is the Aussies words against the Indians.
- Singh can justifiably make a counter-claim re: vulgarities directed at him.
- By resorting to the law, Ponting has ensured that the Aussie behaviour will be closely monitored here and overseas. This takes much of the fun out of a "game" and will ensure Big Brother will be here to stay.

Posted by: kedar Pandit London on 01/06/2008

Mukul

Once again mostly a good article although you have left out what I consider to be some major issues. I am not sure how familiar you are with the antipodean culture and way of life, but having played with a lot of Aussies and Kiwis and in general being good mates with a number of them here at home in London, I feel that this is essentially a case of cultural differences. Aussies and Kiwis use the “f” and “c” word very liberally, almost as frequently as the usage of the term “bloody” in British English! However to an untrained ear, it rightly sounds most annoying and insulting. This has lead to many a problem with non white teams (mainly the sub continental ones) visiting down under. E.g. Lehman’s famous tirade against Jayasuriya calling him a “black c” and Pigeon McGrath calling Jayasurya a “black Monkey”! I am surprised that in your eagerness to express your disapproval of a potential alleged racist remark, you have overlooked these very serious instances but chose to cite Rashid Latif v Gilly etc. In Lehaman’s case, he was merely asked to rest for a handful of inconsequential ODIs, in Pidge McGrath’s case, I can’t remember any punishment being meted out at all. You then indirectly accuse Chetan Chauhan, a man of proven credentials, cricketing standing and integrity of resorting to “sly” practices. Steady on old boy! Chetan was not wrong in saying that “Bandar” (Hindi/Urdu for Monkey) is often used as a harmless term (akin to say “wally” in England), although I am not sure why Bhajji could have possibly used it when the whole “Monkeygate” fiasco is only too fresh in people’s memory. One must also remember that Simo’s carping from day 1 of his arrival in India last October and his blatant jealousy of the financial gains of what he perceived to be moderately talented Indian counterparts certainly could not have helped matters.

Posted by: Sam on 01/06/2008

Sun Tzu would be proud. The Australian cricketers practice 'total war' on every team. Why limit yourselves to the confines of the gentlemanly game when you can defy the rulebook by sledging, pressuring umpires, “Bodyline” bowling (that the Aussies complained about the English for) at the ribs and heads of the opposition batsman, and not walking when clearly out? Ironically, the rulebook is insisted upon when the chips are down - a la underarm bowling. Their behaviour only makes them the team everyone loves to hate throughout the cricketing world. As ambassadors for all Australians, they are doing a disservice to all other Australians. In any event, Ponting and Symonds will not be welcome for endorsements in India

Posted by: kedar pandit London on 01/06/2008

cont.../Although racism is unacceptable in toto, one must also try and detect the reasons for this, which in my experience are usually born out of economic deprivation. I therefore understand why Simo was picked on by the Indian crowds when all they could see was his ungracious attitude in the face of generous Indian hospitality that is world renowned. I am therefore not hugely sympathetic for him in particular. Furthermore he continues to indulge in sledging with the rest of Ponting’s senior brigade. They just can’t accept competition and retaliation sends them into apoplexy! You also seem to overlook Greg Ritchie’s antics involving a cross between Mahatma Ghandi and Peter Sellers (the latter for his aping of Indian accent as perceived in the west) during India’s last trip of Aus in 2003-2004. This was reported on Cricinfo by Sambit Baal to be in most pathetic taste and generally racist if I recall correctly. Also remember MCG Bay 13’s treatment of Sambit and his fellow brown companions attending the 2003 MCG test (pushing and swearing galore!)? So next time please be a bit more balanced in expressing your opinions in a public forum before branding Indian crowds and players to be “racist” and in particular recommend a “ban”, particularly so when the whole thing smacks of Steve Waugh’s “mental disintegration” type strategy to nullify Bhajji. Would not be surprised if the next thing for Ponting and chums was to question his action using the ultra nationalistic Aussie press and Channel 9 team!
Finally Ponting’s Aussies whilst remaining a current day “great” team, have some way to go as gentlemen and much beloved the world over, unlike its predecessor Lloyd’s calypso warriors, who incidentally would have beaten these boys at cricket, popularity and gentlemanly behaviour (NZ 1980 and bumper barrage not withstanding!). This I consider to be truly a great shame, as the general sporting ethics of the Aussie team is in no way reflective of most Antipodeans I have been mates with for a long time. Besides Aus and NZ remain hugely sporty and appreciative crowds in general. Their adoption of SRT as one of their own is ample reflection of that. One also needs to take a look at Channel 9’s web site discussion over whether Roy and Punter should have walked, which judging by the responses have divided that nation. A lot of Aussies have also expressed their anger at the increasing hubris of Punter’s team vis-à-vis say Tubby Taylor’s team of the mid 90’s. That should hopefully provide adequate comfort to most non Aussies and neutral cricket lovers alike.

Posted by: Himanshu Trivedi on 01/06/2008

Dear Sir
Harbhajan is no saint, but unfortunately, saints do not play cricket (or do not make good cricketers). However, on the other hand, Australians (barring people like Adam Gilchrist) are not washed with milk either. Racism in any form is required to be put down - no matter how harsh it may sound - but the "evidence" of "word" of persons, who got "out", did not walk and when given "out" when actually not out, gesticulated very loudly (Poor Yuvraj had to face a hearing, Ponting did not face one) - should not be taken as gospel truth as none of them are JC (Jesus Christ). If Harbhajan is found guilty on "reliable" evidence, severe punishment shall be meted out as calling anyone "monkey" or a racist comment shall be a big NO. However, if the complaint proves to be Ponting's ploy for not facing Harbhajan in the rest of the series, there shall be a severe reprimand against Australians.

Posted by: mk49 on 01/06/2008

I think we need more big brother tactics. I think sledging in any form - racial, personal, of the "wife-mother-sister" kind should be disallowed. The Aussies have long played dirty - and have routinely used racist tactics and practice (they did play against apartheid SA for decades). Further, I am not sure why calling someone a monkey or tauting them in some other way is qualitatively different. It may a different resonance in different societies, Western societies with their own histories are touch about N words, but other socities may have other sensitivities (say for e.g. comments about beards).
I think we should put an end to all sledging, and punisher those who bait (Symonds) and those who may be respond (Harbhajan).
Let us drop Bhajji, but not let the Aussie monster go scot-free

Posted by: mk49 on 01/06/2008

I think we need more big brother tactics. I think sledging in any form - racial, personal, of the "wife-mother-sister" kind should be disallowed. The Aussies have long played dirty - and have themselves routinely used racist and other tactics and practice (they did play against apartheid SA for decades). Further, I am not sure why calling someone a monkey or tauting them in some other way is qualitatively different. It may have different resonance in different societies, Western societies with their own histories are touchy about N words, but other socities may have other sensitivities (say for e.g. comments about beards).
I think we should put an end to all sledging, and punish those who bait (Symonds) and those who may be respond (Harbhajan).
Let us punish Bhajji, but not let the Aussie monster go scot-free.

Posted by: mk49 on 01/06/2008

I think we need more big brother tactics. I think sledging in any form - racial, personal, of the "wife-mother-sister" kind should be disallowed. The Aussies have long played dirty - and have themselves routinely used racist and other tactics and practice (they did play against apartheid SA for decades). Further, I am not sure why calling someone a monkey or tauting them in some other way is qualitatively different. It may have different resonance in different societies, Western societies with their own histories are touchy about N words, but other socities may have other sensitivities (say for e.g. comments about beards).
I think we should put an end to all sledging, and punish those who bait (Symonds) and those who may be respond (Harbhajan).
Let us punish Bhajji, but not let the Aussie monster go scot-free.

Posted by: Shrinagesh on 01/06/2008

Cricinfo's blogs are getting shriller and this guy, Kesavan, believes Harbhajan made a racist remark. Amazing? Was he there on the field in first place? Is he trying to create a circumstantial evidence? Was he sure the Aussies are not cooking up? Does Aussies true followers of Mahatma? Is there something called racism in the Indian psyche? If at all there was one, wasn't it admiration for other races and contempt for one's own?
Indians have been abused consistently by Whiteners but that wasn't racism. BCCI should not invite Symonds to play in India and that will be the best punishment to him as it will bite his purse.
Kesavan arguing for Aussies is funny as he was acting like Nirad Chaudhuray or India born writers who cannot understand India but make a living by abusing India .To make things appear sober, Kesavan appears to take on the Aussies for a while. Pl do not be carried away. This guy is a pretender and Aussie hand maiden. Most journalists are like him because I know too many.

Posted by: ravikumar,jakarta on 01/06/2008

Isnt it very queer that whatever other teams done is highlighted while australians whatever they do is attributed as gamemanship or tactics.Is it right to talk(for symmonds) to disturb a concentrating batsman,(not to forget that he is a bowler mainly)by provoking him.Now can some one tell me how a bowler who went on to make 60 and more runs and trying his level best to save his team will afford to think of racist comments or what so ever he is reportd to have commented? Was it so unilateral and not being provoked?? It doesnt make any sense if harbhajan gets punished and symmonds not? Its absolute mockery of such judgement.If you(ICC) have guts to weather strong cricket boards like australian and Indian please make rules that no player in either side is allowed to talk with a player in other team as long as match goes on.Any references with his team mates or any sledging will attract direct dismissal of such player from his team.Believe me.Many australian players will be out then.

Posted by: Manas Maity on 01/06/2008

Mukul Kesavan,
Every crime has an appropriate punishment. By saying Harbhajan should be banned forever by BCCI, if he has committed the crime of calling Symonds a monkey, you have only exposed yourself. You better grow up quickly. Also, you should have written a line asking what Symmonds did, shouldn't you?

Posted by: Indian on 01/06/2008

Mukul Kesavan ( writer ) amply reflects his limited intellect by presumming whole lot of things and unfairly harsh on Harbhajan. He shows his slave mentality and conviently chose to forget the provocation some Aussie players are known for years. Something must have happened which provoked Harbhajan to talk to Symonds. or the writer thinks that its a habit of Harbhajan to certainly start calling names even thou he was batting pretty well.He suggested that he should be banned forever from international cricket. Madhu, could you widen your horizons and think what happened since 70s when asian players were crucified cos of their colour. Mukul it reflects your slave mentality as your genes suggest you had more than one father and that too of diffrent race. Check with your mother please before you put such thoughts in media.

Symonds and Ricky and other cricketers should also be held accountable for what happenened in the middle and technology shoul play greater role.

Posted by: kk on 01/06/2008

I think the whole article is a BS by some wash up AH who wont hesitate making a same side goal to impress the ever racist white populus out there. Take it easy dude, there can't be anyone more racist than any of those Australian psychos. This whole crap about counter racism is a BS supported several self loathing idiots like you.

Posted by: dilip on 01/06/2008

Well done mukul stunning comments, anybody can use some part of previous facts to justify somehting and put their case strongly. Sadly you have done the same to justify your point, i think what harbhajan supposedly did calls for a ban then these australian players would have never been able to play 100 tests as they should be banned after every match as they do things which are worse every match rather every session. Were you writing for circinfo when glenn mcgrath had made a remark on ramnaresh sarwan, and when glenn mcgrath had made a comment and remarks when he got sachin in 1999 in sydney. Those remakrs were certainly humiliating if not racists. And just in case if harbhajan referred symonds as "monkey" how can that be racists, some one please explain me. I am sure mukul would have a fantastic explanation for this.

Posted by: Hanuman on 01/06/2008

Caling anybody a monkey, a divine intepretation of Hanuman is a matter of respect in Indian culture. It should not be taken out of contect. Never translate perceived slurs into other languages. It looks and feels different

Posted by: DESIB on 01/06/2008

Please mukul, give it a break !!!I guess you never watched any matches involving australia over the years at all or for that matter south africa or england. These are the teams that have started all this so called chatter on the field and taunted opposing teams, especially targeting the teams from the subcontinent repeatedly. I can show any number of youtube videos showing how australians have taunted indian players with comments, gestures and so on. Remember Mcgrath,steve waugh,and even Michael Slater himself who is now accusing Harbhajan ? Why these double standards? Why only punish Indian players? Why dont we investigate what prompted harbhajan even to say anything in the first place. I had seen the match and saw Hayden and Symonds repeatedly talk at/to bhajji while he was batting.I dont think they were asking about his health !!! Please get out of your awe of Australians and of white people Mukul and let the facts come out totally from both sides before making judgement

Posted by: sajan on 01/06/2008

i think he should be banned 1year if found guilty by ICC and BCCI , its a serious crime he was targeting Symonds from mumbai ODI

Posted by: Raghu on 01/06/2008

There is no place for sledges, slurs or stupidity on the field. If there is evidence of this by Harbhajan, then he should be punished, after a proper hearing.

That being said, this has largely been a trial by media, which is inappropriate. True to form, Channel 9's Australian commentators are adding to the hearsay by claiming to have inside knowledge of locker-room conversations on this issue.

Its amazing how the sensitivities of Australian cricketers (current and former) are offended when they are the receiving end of, but none of this is an issue when they are the ones hurling it at other teams.

One simple way to resolve such issues. Cricketers should "Shut up and Play"; let their skills do the talking. If not, the law should come be brutally AND equally enforced, irrespective of the race, colour, origin of the perpetrator.

Posted by: SN on 01/06/2008

Now that someone else can play the sledging game also - Australias start crying like babies - and call their mommy. Australia are the ones who introduced personal sleding to the game - so thay need to suck it up and learn to live with it. Coming on top of super poor umpiring in this test - all favoring the Australians - this is adding insult to injury. Of course, all of India will be suprememly pissed if this case is not dismissed.

Posted by: LBW on 01/06/2008

Mukul,

Chetan Chauhan shouldn't say that monkey is a derogatory word. We have defended ourselves in India with this. However, after those incidents, it is now well known to every player in our team that monkey means denigrating and is racist. It is acceptable if Harbhajan has indeed used.

I know the arguement that Australians do sledge. If they do sledge and if they they abuse vulgarly, why do our players wait till they complain about our behavior? Why don't we protest against their behavior? At Oval earlier this year, Zaheer Khan has made it clear to the English team that throwing jelly beans in unacceptable. That is the way other players should also approach the game.

Posted by: nj on 01/06/2008

I dont believe in Australian players I think even if they find harbhajan guilty they should also penalise whoever accusing him including Symonds,Ponting.Because he is not going to say anything unless instigated.To stop this thing in future both players should be penalised.Aussies under the name of professionalism & to win, do whatever they can, from history you can see Mcgrath-Sarwan incident and once Mcgrath did spit towards a batsman(the viseo is available on google) and I have never seen them being called by match referee forget about penalty.
This same Ponting when he last time won a One day tournament in India pushed a Minister to grab his trophy.And he apologised only when he was asked repeatedly.
My observation has always been when australians do things those are taken as attacking cricket when others do it is called offensive behaviour/racism etc..
So there are already double standards in international cricket.
By the way I even dont believe in Mike Procter all

Posted by: Andy Singh on 01/06/2008

Mukul, you have lost it. Wre you there or was there a witness present. If anything defend your team. Evryone is innocent till proven guilty. You are dead wrong

Posted by: Rohit Gore on 01/06/2008

This is really precious on part of Symonds. He can always get away with hugely personal remarks against the opposition players. Calling an opposition player "bas__rd" is accpetable by the Aussies but being called a monkey is not. I have heard a word so many times that is a slang for donkey. "You have made an ass of yourself, mate".
So is donkey racist too? So what really consitutes racist? I think there are many people in the world for whom word monkey does not count racist, I think. Just like a donkey. Just like an elephant. Or a hippo for that matter.

Posted by: LBW on 01/06/2008

SN, Sledging is different and racism is different. Sledging is akin to teasing and has a line and limit. www.thesillypoint.com/forum. Racism unfortunately does not have a line or a limit.

Posted by: Krishnan Srinivasan on 01/06/2008

Nice article Mukul. But I don't understand what constitutes "racist" when all kinds of things are being uttered on the field. Should there be a pre-specified set of words that are not allowed on the field? Otherwise any player can find anything offensive, and there might be no end to it. I believe Ricky Ponting played cry baby in this case to take whatever happened on the pitch to the referee, when even the umpires had not heard anything. Or maybe it was just another Aussie mind game trick. If no racist words were uttered, Ricky Ponting should be punished really hard for bringing the game to disrepute.

Posted by: Ken on 01/06/2008

I find it amazing that so many Indian supporters don't believe anything their team or supporters can do is racist.

Posted by: Ken on 01/06/2008

I find it amazing that so many Indian supporters don't believe anything their team or supporters can do is racist.

Posted by: A Singh on 01/06/2008

The vulgarity ( cursing at every instances) express by Austrailians in the middle is well known.

They used it in the West Indies aganist Sarwan---and taught that he would not resopond--he did --it got blown up in the Austrialian press---just like--this.

What was Symmonds saying to Baji---before --Baji summonds him---is swaering allowed---is swearing not demeaning and deragotory.

But Austrialians---has done much damage to the game---would any Austrialian father tell his child --to be like Symmonda and Pointing ---and openly cheat

Would any Austrialian parent tell their child to confront and intimidate umpires--like the Austrialians do.

Both Hayden and Hussey were out LBW yestersay---but the upires dare not give them out.

The overall is all the White teams swear and make vulguar remarks in the middle--to most of the other teams---just look at Andrew Nel of South Africa had to say Gayle after being hit for sixes.
Is any body going to stop---these white racist culture.

Posted by: A Singh on 01/06/2008

The vulgarity ( cursing at every instances) express by Austrailians in the middle is well known.

They used it in the West Indies aganist Sarwan---and taught that he would not resopond--he did --it got blown up in the Austrialian press---just like--this.

What was Symmonds saying to Baji---before --Baji summonds him---is swaering allowed---is swearing not demeaning and deragotory.

But Austrialians---has done much damage to the game---would any Austrialian father tell his child --to be like Symmonda and Pointing ---and openly cheat

Would any Austrialian parent tell their child to confront and intimidate umpires--like the Austrialians do.

Both Hayden and Hussey were out LBW yestersay---but the upires dare not give them out.

The overall is all the White teams swear and make vulguar remarks in the middle--to most of the other teams---just look at Andrew Nel of South Africa had to say Gayle after being hit for sixes.
Is any body going to stop---these white racist culture.

Posted by: Sailesh Shah on 01/06/2008

Mukul you are the biggest clown in the cricket circus. You are living on the cricket writings. So it is your bread and butter. Meaning you can write anything you like.
How can you jump to conclusion, the harbhajan should be banned for ever, I think people like should be banned for life, and you should be asked to STOP writing. Why do you poision people's mind. Why dont you keep your mouth shut and let them decide what to do. After the judgement is out you may write your views.
Journalist hardly understand cricket, so they only depend on the such gimmicks. You people are more interested in non playing opinions, cause you do not understand the finer points of the game.

Posted by: RKN on 01/06/2008

I don't condone racism. But in this case, don't think that any punishment is called for. It has been reported in Aussie newspapers that it was Symonds who first had a "word" with Harbhajan and Harbhjan has been alleged to have responded with a racial rejoinder. It is not that "racial" taunts are more hurting than other ones. Other vulgar comments also hurt that's why people respond with more outrageous response and things quickly get out of hand. If Symmonds has instigated this, Symmonds should be punished severly for provoking Harbhajan as well.
The best thing to do is if you can't take the abuse, you don't start one yourself. Aussies are the ones who started this objectionable behavior, and they can't say what is acceptable sledging and what is not, simple because this would vary from person to person.

RKN

Posted by: anisha on 01/06/2008

wht is this nonsense
1st of all austrailia is guilty 100% they r using it for the sake of themselves
hv they played one series widout this chants?
india doin right thngs this ppl r jealous abt T20 n u call austrailia gentlemans shame on u author

Posted by: michael on 01/06/2008

"I can see players and officials asking for stump microphones to be left on all the time so that allegations of this sort in the future can be settled by technology." ....but i could like to stress is to that lets use the technology to give "human error free" decision on batsman's dismissal on wicket. can they do it first?

Posted by: Whatever on 01/06/2008

Yes, Brett Lee recently defended Aussie sledging as gamesmanship. But Harbhajan must be punished, whether or not he has indeed said such a thing to Symonds- provoked or unprovoked. Some Orwellian doublespeak and tactics!

Posted by: S.N. IYER on 01/06/2008

I think the issue is being prejudged by Mr.Kesavan.Andrew Symonds seems to have a complex about his looks or may be his ancestry as he made similar allegations when he was here in India recently.Unless there is absolute proof,Harbhajan should be exonerated. But the lesson to be learnt from all this that no sledging or for that matter conversations between the players should be banned. If anything has to be said it should be in front of the umpires. This should end once for all the Aussie tactic of sledging in which they are adapt.When sledging was allowed and encouraged the authorities should have realized where this will end.As it is the sportsmanship of the Aussies is questionable and if sledging is banned they will have to behave in a more sportsmanlike manner on the field.

Posted by: Ben on 01/06/2008

i find it amazing how australians can cover their own mistakes... if harbhajan is found not guilty that symonds should be heavily penalised for appealing wrongly... i guess he jus can hear properly!
y doesnt sumone buy him a pair of hearin aids... that would solve the whole problem...

Posted by: dave on 01/06/2008

Some nice balanced comments here - from the Indian fans with chips on both shoulders.

Posted by: Travis on 01/06/2008

Nobody here seems to have considered the possibility that Ponting may have been confident that the stump-microphones HAD picked up Harbhajan's comments and been surprised to find out that they did not.

Posted by: karan on 01/06/2008

Mukul, How prejudice can you get?

Australians, especially symonds, clarke are no angel. They say things all the time. Symond has come up with something that nobody has heard or there is no evidence.

How could you come up to suggestion that Harbhajan should be banned from international cricket if found guilty? What about symond said things to Harbhajan?

My friend, be fair before what you write. First rule of writing a column is you have to be unbiased.

Posted by: MSB on 01/06/2008

I think the writer need to stay in Aussie land for good. I don't know in what grounds he says Harbhajan need to be severely punished. As if Aussies are the purest of sportspersons who play professionally without resorting to any dirty antics. Even if Harbhajan said whatever he did, i think he need to be applauded rather than being punished since he just gave to someone who deserves much more? Now, why is this guy Sreesanth not in the team, he should be atleast against Australia - for his pace which should be a treat to watch in pacy grounds and also for his aggression against Aussies which is what India need and not to be cowed down by mind games played by Australia.

This is coming from a one time big supporter of Australia in the days of Waughs, Bevans, Warnes & Mcgraths. Aussie team is behaving like cry baby nowadays.

Posted by: satya narendra on 01/06/2008

From a historical perspective it was the British who used to refer to the Indians as monkeys. This was indeed a racial slur. The idea being that the Indians were less like humans and more like animals than the white man.

To turn around now and say it's alright to call a man of African heritage a monkey, is akin to saying the British were right to call us monkeys.

It's racism. Pure and simple.

Posted by: Praveen on 01/06/2008

Austalians are playing cricket only for winning, whether by cheating, sledging, in what ever way which in not actually cricket. Australians can do any thing they want, say any thing they want to but they dont like others do the same. Australia should be banned from cricket until they learn how to play cricket honestly. Then only the game of cricket is free from sledging, abusing and controversy. If any one thought Harbhajan with out any provocation from symonds, gone directly to him and say "You are a Monkey", he is a fool. I request Mukul to check his words.

Posted by: Farooq on 01/06/2008

Mukulkesavan, shame on you for nt supporting our guys. The way the umpiring decisions have gone and the behaviour of Australian players is a clear indicator tat bhajji has been framed! How can you actually take the words of a player (symonds)who himself is a big cheat. One who refuses to walk when out, one who is always chirping at our players trying to unsettle them, including obscene language. Bhajji is being framed in coz he is a no nonsense character, coz he helped india gain a substantial lead in this test. And also mukul, how can you forget McGrath n Lehmann taunting the SriLankan players racially???? Jus bcoz the aussies cud nt get bhajji's wicket, they tried to unsettle him with their 'NORMAL' antics, which is sledging. In my word, this is the time when these aussies shud be brought to justice before its too late. BCCI shud act now n save our players image frm being tarnished before its too late.

Long live bhajji, long live INDIANS...

Australian team S***!!!!!

Posted by: BB on 01/06/2008

The 'World Champions' cannot take it when they get back what they routinely dish out, and, not to forget their ability to 'spin' situations to their advantage.
What a bunch of hypocritical "poofs" - running to the umpires to complain about racism!!! Lets not confuse gamesmanship with abuse.
Poor Andrew Symonds - hes ended up becoming a pawn in the evil machinations of the Aussie "mental disintegration" committee led by a Sleazy Punter.
In my book Ponting, and, his heir apparent Michael Clarke are the 2 most annoying people on the cricket field.
Case in point - Clarke standing his ground after being caught at first slip.
Go India - We're still learning the art of sledging. Just need to tweak the delivery, and, we'll be able to beat them at their own game.

Posted by: OnionBag on 01/06/2008

Not surprising that most of you who have never lived in a minority don't understand the nature of Racism.
The reason why it is more offensive than other types of insults is that it questions the very species of a person. To use the term 'monkey' is like saying you are not evolved to a human being. Given the history of the world, the very root of racism surrounds this notion and many races have suffered for generations as a result of this thinking. I cannot think of a more offensive insult. This is why it cannot be tolerated where other insults can be excused. Lehmann was charged, admitted guilt and was punished. No conspiracy. To suggest that the Australian captain has fabricated this whole scenario with Harbhajan has about as much creditability as the authorities at Wankhede stadium denying any racist taunts took place in the recent ODI. All other arguments are void.

Posted by: sudeep Rao on 01/06/2008

Oh those poor Aussies. They so love the game and all its traditions they dont want to see it brought down by Bhajii and the Indian racist!...all so ironic that the only real trade of words in this series came after 7 days of cricket, and just happened to be when the aussies were on the backfoot and frustrated by not being able to dismiss a tail ender!!

ponting ONLY reported this becuase Harbhajan has gotten under his skin. Ponting doesnt give a flying heck about racism and Symonds feeling, Ponting has purely and simply let Bhajii get under his skin!

Posted by: Frank on 01/06/2008

If I m not mistaken in Hindu religion Monkey has a noble status, a monkey is a Hindu God, so Symond should be honored if he was called "Monkey"

Posted by: Jhonty on 01/06/2008

Not only Aussie Cricketers but the commentators on channel Nine Are Racist as well , they kind find any thing positive in touring teams and always backing wrong decesions. shame on you guys , its a shame , and symonds well he is a thrird class cricketer , and look at the face of Michael Clark in 2nd Innings , did he wanted to go after that big nick? must be thinking buckoner will ignore that as well. Shame on Pontings team.

Posted by: Sheridan on 01/06/2008

This is the worst argument, how is monkey a racist comment? the comment may refer to his appearance, if so why does the Australians have the rite to call Sachin Tendulkar a "Little" Master. Dont both comments refer to their appearance not race?

Posted by: Nagendra Shenoy on 01/06/2008

Ponting and the Australian media realises that Symonds' INFERIORITY COMPPLEX can be misused to play mind games with the Indians. But I have something to say for Mr. Ponting... "THIS IS NOT HOW YOU PLAY A BOWLER WHO HAS GOT YOU OUT 8 TIMES IN TEST MATCHES'!

Posted by: Aaron on 01/06/2008

What's the big deal about calling someone a monkey? Get over it. I call my mixed-race niece a monkey all the time. She doesn't get offended. They are all grown men and the aussies are very quick to dish it out. They have to be prepared to take it as well.

Posted by: satya narendra on 01/06/2008

If Harbhajan has referred to Symonds as a monkey, then he has not only let down the Indian team, he has let down the whole nation. And should be dropped.

We put up with 150 years of English racial slurs and brutality, where we were treated as little more than monkeys, purely because of the colour of our skin.

The African people who were the slaves in the Carribean, through whom Symonds traces his heritage - put up with 400 years of even worse.

For any one of us to now turn around and imitate this despicable behaviour is the height of shame.
Someone recently posted the statement that we Indians think we're as good as anyone - as good as the whites - and so we are.

But do we think we're better than the blacks?

The equality & justice upon which this country was built, for which Mahatma Gandhi starved himself so we could be free, forbids us to dehumanise anyone because of their race or the colour of their skin.

I am sorry to read all the Indian aggression.

We are better than that.

Posted by: OnionBag on 01/06/2008

amazing reading some Indian fans comments about the T20. The Aussies dont even care that India won that tournament. Symonds was irritated that when he got to India he'd observed that India had self proclaimed their cricket team as "World Champions". Australia currently hold every trophy in test cricket, every trophy in ODI cricket except for a series with SA in SA which they lost 2-1 and last years tri series with England which they dominated but lost the final leading into the World Cup. They hold the World Cup and the Champions Trophy. India win a mickey mouse knockout tournament which actually was test event, not an official world cup and yet proclaim themselves world champions of cricket. Fair play to India for winning the tournament - but so what, the gloating that took place since is disproportionate to the importance of that tournament.

Posted by: sukhi on 01/06/2008

This has got be the dumbest thing i have heard. If you come to australia you will know how much crap we take from people, just go to a ground and i promise you will find someone yelling at your turban or accent. For harbhajan to be saying something racist is beyond a joke. If you seriously believe he is racist what has he got to say that could be racist ? He is of black colour himself. Has anyone thought about that ??????

This is absolutely stupid and a dumb action taken. Either way Bhaji will win it. How dare the Aussies think they can get away with anything. Yes they are good in cricket and great. But they dont like it one bit when they are on the back foot and when something comes their way they act like little kids and complain about everything. Do you remember the crap they used to do when touring India ? They used to complain about everyone, every umpire. Even when they won the trophy they pushed the guy away.

Aussies are more racist then any other nation ask any other team

Posted by: Vineet Sinha on 01/06/2008

Ricky & his recent cronies always seem to complain about the entire world & their mother whenever they are falling behind in a contest.How does one forget how he behaved with Srinath when the latter apologized to him after having bowled a snorter!Can one forget Slater's reaction to Dravid on a catch not being given in a test match in India!One can point out several eccentric examples set by McGrath on the field!Ricky Ponting,though several might believe,is neither an Allan Border to lead by example nor a Steve Waugh to lead by grit & determination. The entire incident in India was played up by Symonds and him and they are repeating the same in their backyard. No issues in the first test since they were always in a commanding position..but come a problem in the 2nd test and they stoop down to their well-established low levels of complaining like sissies. Guys,be popular winners & behave like the best team in the world.And abt Mr.Kesavan's comments, who the heck cares abt what he thinks!

Posted by: Harminder Singh on 01/06/2008

Harbhajan should be brought to justice if he is found guilty of racist remarks. There is no doubt about it. This is in the interest of the game. But if it is only sledging, then it is part and parcel of Cricket, let it go. Australians are uncomfortable and thinking they are the champions in sledging so how someone can overtake them in this off-side game?

Posted by: OnionBag on 01/06/2008

every knows how the term monkey was really intended. dont try explain it away with any excuse. Symonds is of part African (via the Carribean) heritage. Monkey as been used as an insult toward Africans by other races for decades. Its totally racist. Your excuses Sheridan are pathetic.

Posted by: Rohit on 01/06/2008

There shouldn't be any sort of abuse , whether racial or personal.I am Indian , and I would prefer being called a curry-something or gunga din instead of the good name of my family members assaulted.All this sledging is one day going to lead to a fist fight on the cricket field,and someone is going to get seriously hurt especially with the weight of modern bats.It is quite apparent that Australians can give it but not take it,and they react poorly when the opposition is on top.Even if Symonds had called Harbhajan a monkey of which there is no proof so far, this matter could have been settled unofficially by the 2 captains.Indian players get along extremely well with West Indians or black South Africans , so I dont really understand why they would pick Symonds out.To me profanity of a personal nature is as grave as racism, and both need to be stamped out for good.Lets just stick to cricket.I hope Harbhajan gets exonerated and both he and Symonds shake hands and apologize to each other.

Posted by: Kate on 01/06/2008

Reading these posts makes me despair. The issue, like it or not, is whether or not a racist slur has been made against Andrew Symonds. It is not about sledging as such. It is pointless to suggest that the word 'monkey' is not taken to be racist- look at the experiences of black soccer players in Europe- Samuel Eto'o, Thierry Henry et al. Leaving what is said on the field when it is racist in nature is unacceptable. Michael Long in Australian rules football brought about fundamental change by taking a stand on behalf of himself and fellow Aboriginal players. Cricket should follow suit. When it all descends into a debate about national sensitivities, then the issue itself is truly lost. Ricky Ponting should be applauded for taking a stand, not vilified.

Posted by: Rohit on 01/06/2008

There shouldn't be any sort of abuse , whether racial or personal.I am Indian , and I would prefer being called a curry-something or gunga din instead of the good name of my family members assaulted.All this sledging is one day going to lead to a fist fight on the cricket field,and someone is going to get seriously hurt especially with the weight of modern bats.It is quite apparent that Australians can give it but not take it,and they react poorly when the opposition is on top.Even if Symonds had called Harbhajan a monkey of which there is no proof so far, this matter could have been settled unofficially by the 2 captains.Indian players get along extremely well with West Indians or black South Africans , so I dont really understand why they would pick Symonds out.To me profanity of a personal nature is as grave as racism, and both need to be stamped out for good.Lets just stick to cricket.I hope Harbhajan gets exonerated and both he and Symonds shake hands and apologize to each other.

Posted by: Sam on 01/06/2008

Mukul is a hypocrite trying to find favour with the western world in the hope of a few bits of loaf thrown his way in terms of favours. He has lost the plot, which is obvious to all readers. Harbajan cannot be held responsible for racist behaviour when he and all asian players are being abused and slandered on the pitch in the name of sledging. Put on the stump microphone all the time and make it a level playing field-- The aussies will not be able to mentally put down any opponent and only the best team will win. Pointig did not have the guts to make a sporting declaration and this exercise is only to use the rules to decimate the indian attack with other means when he could not fare well against our third choice bowlers due to injury.Slater had a big whinge on TV about racism yet he is no saint to controversy when he came to India. Very hypocritical. The Aussie way is when they say it should stay on the field but when others do it is--- Mama!!! Mama!!! see what they are doing. SHAME

Posted by: rajHeg123 on 01/06/2008

Aussies are dirty team. Do not support them Symonds, hayden, Ponting, Clarke, Waugh bunch of fighters. Send them to iraq for fighting along with George Bush for Iraq oil.

Cheers. Any decent human being understands who is the instigator. Call Spade a spade.

Posted by: Ram on 01/06/2008

The two incidents that were reported were during matches in which Australians weren't doing well. They seem to be good boys when they are winning and totally suck when they are loosing.

Posted by: shiv mathur on 01/06/2008

Abusive language used by Australians in sledging is far far worse than calling someone a monkey..... even if Harbhajan did that after being obviously provoked. Notice that the clip shows Harbhajan signalling to Symonds to come to him.Why would he do this unless Symonds has said something to him while passing him. What has happened immediately BEFORE this is not shown anywhere.... out of design ? Further, the umpire spoke to Harbhajan for a long time. Why was Symonds not questioned ? If there is any racial element involved is seems it is not on the part of Harbhajan Singh
Austrialia is just getting back a taste of what they have been dishing out. They have been known to start such things the moment the other team takes a slightly upper hand.
If the inquiry is fair, Harbhajan should be found not guilty. Team India should then file counter charges for defemation.

Posted by: Aditya on 01/06/2008

I think this is where Mukul gets it wrong. Calling someone a monkey is not racial as far as Indians are concerned. It is not Harbhajan's fault that Symonds over-excessive application of 'zinc' cream on his lips make them look think and hence look like a monkey. Australians in general are racists and hypocrites. They dish out all sorts of comments and expect people to absorb them, but when they are on the receiving end, they overreact (McGrath-Sarwan was a classic example of this). They are just jealous of Harbhajan's success over them historically. This is just another mind game tactic by the Australian cricket team. Ricky Ponting may have scored all these runs, but he isn't respected by many - not even his own peers. Screw you Australian cricketers (except Gilly and some others) ... you are hypocrites

Posted by: Ashish Samarth on 01/06/2008

I'm tired of the hyper-nationalistic zeal of the posters above. We Indians love to feel as if the whole world is against us.
1.There is no doubt that the Australians are a bunch of backyard bullies who try to win by any means possible. E.g I'm sure that a portion of Warne's wickets,were taken by pressurizing the unpires by excessive appealing,especially in the 'olden' days when there were no laws/guidelines on this.
2. However, it is ridiculous to suggest that if its ok to say monkey in India,its ok to say it elsewhere. I dare any Indian on this board to go draw a swastika in the town square of Berlin and try explaining to the locals that's its just a rangoli.The argument that McGrath & Lehmann did it does not justify us doing it too.
3.As for Symonds walking, stop whining about it.No one in the Indian team walks
4.One just has to sit in the stands of the Wankhede to listen to the vile abuse hurled at any visiting player.

I call for a ban on all kinds of sledging. turn the mics on!

Posted by: OnionBag on 01/06/2008

to Sukhi "Aussies are more racist then any other nation ask any other team"

there are racists in all countries. its an unfortunate but unacceptable part of human nature.

its usually restricted to a few idiots, but what i saw in Wankhede was virtually a whole crowd in a stadium joining in a racist taunt. Thats institutionalized racism if ever i've seen it. I guess the local media didnt cover that.

Posted by: Gut on 01/06/2008

Ponting & Symonds are just being far too precious and very selective.
What I can't understand is how a batsman can carry on batting when everyone at the ground, except the umpire, and at home known that he was out.

Posted by: Sam on 01/06/2008

This is in response to OnionBag who is definitely a Hypocritical Aussie.
Symonds was inflamed after the T20 because of the adoration and the money being showered on the Indian team. This should not concern him. What we do with our finances and emotion towards our team is our problem. He is part of the Aussie team representing Australia. He was just plain JEALOUS !!! indeed and could not stomach it . There is no cure for jealousy. Symonds should grow up and be mature not just act Macho.

Posted by: OnionBag on 01/06/2008

Vineet Sinha: "Ricky & his recent cronies always seem to complain about the entire world & their mother whenever they are falling behind in a contest."

evidence?

Posted by: Stinky Ponting on 01/06/2008

Multiple instances of Aussie gamesmanship.
Trevor Chappell underarm incident.
Dennis Lillee-Gavaskar resulting in his walk-out
Michael Slater-Rahul Dravid with his disputed catch.
Ian Healy-Moin Khan 1992 World Cup match when Healy refused to walk on being given out.
Biggest culprit McGrath - Ramnaresh Sarwan
McGrath - Ganguly
Arrogant Ponting remonstrating when given out.
Brett Lee's frequent beamers which supposedly slipped out of his hand.
Ponting's petulance when given out, which escapes the eye of the match referees worldwide. Michael Clarke's show of dissent in this match.
I admired Ricky Ponting's great innings in the 2003 World Cup final. But I must admit, his behavior in recent time has eroded the respect that I had for him. As for Andrew "Racism" Symonds, he is their racism trump card since everyone else in the team is white. Darrly Harper famous shoulder before wicket), Darrell Hair, Ricky Ponting, Andrew Symonds have ensured that I no longer admire the Australian team.

Posted by: Arun on 01/06/2008

The Aussie cricketers are a bunch of f**king hypocrites. I use the F word as that is obviously ok with them while prefixing or suffixing it to other players' mothers and wives during the course of their 'non-offensive' banter. They resemble the kind of kids who would instigate a fight, get their own teeth bashed in and then go to random people to complain that they got unfairly roughed up. One should come to Australia and just walk the streets, preferably on a Friday or Saturday night to observe how deep rooted racial hatred actually is within some people. Sometimes it doesn't even warrant any verbal abuse. A brown person would be getting back to his home from his workplace in the night when he gets a beer bottle smack on the back of his skull. But obviously either Ponting and company don't know this at all or are a part of this in such a big way that they want to show the world that their people are victimized as well, possibly just for the heck of it.

Posted by: Francis on 01/06/2008

The sheer idiocy of many of these comments forces me to respond. This is a simple procedure to decide if a sportsman has transgressed the laws of the game by racially abusing an opponent. The article points to the possible consequences of the case to the future of the game and this series. There is no mention of the behaviour of the Australians because it is entirely irrelevant. This is a question of racism. If Harbajhan has called an opponent a monkey, then he should be punished absolutely. This is completely unacceptable in any form of society. If such a remark was made it is, at the least, culturally insensitive racism, as a word like "monkey" has connotations in Australia, and when I last checked this game was being played there. At the most, it is a disgusting, abhorrent way of vilifying the nature of someone's heritage for on field advantage. To those who feel that it is alright to label someone with offensive names that are acceptable in other parts of the world, GROW UP!

Posted by: Manish on 01/06/2008

There's a bigger problem than racism in cricket. And that's Indian cricket journalists - who really can be bought for a mere drink. I have seen so many sports reporters in India from close quarters - they are nothing more than what we call a samose-kachori ki dukaan. They'll write whatever you want un exchange for a couple of samosas. Mukul is possibly an exception. He'll porobably do it for a couple of drinks.

Posted by: Arun on 01/06/2008

Any form of abuse becomes racism when it's hurled with an intent to highlight one's supposed racial superiority over another's. Where Harbhajan has gone wrong is, even if he had said monkey without any such intent, he already very well knows the implications of uttering that word through the fracas during the series in India. But all that is assuming if he indeed did call Andrew Symonds a monkey.

Posted by: Rajesh, USA on 01/06/2008

Why are we diverting the attention and talking about this non issue when we have two shameless umpires working for the Australian team handing them a victory on the platter.

Malcolm Speed comes out with the line that these things even themselves out. Well, they certainly don't. How does he know that these things even themselves out? How does he know what a batsman would have done if he wasn't wrongly given out or vice versa. Does it mean that the umpires keep a record of what happened ten years ago and try to make it even. Even if I were to agree that umpiring errors even out in the long run, how does that leave the result of a test series or of a test match for that matter?

In my opinion most fans can deal with a bad loss such as India getting knocked out of the world cup. But people want to watch a fair contest. My advise to Indian fans is to spend your time, money and emotions wisely. And take the old records with a grain of salt. We don't know what all went into that.

Posted by: Andrew on 01/06/2008

Satya narendra, I salute your courage and honour to speak out against the indefensible. As for the rest of the comments - those disgraceful scenes at Mumbai that sickened the world were not racism, but a chant of reverence likening Symonds to the monkey god??? Oh, pleeeeeease!

Posted by: immi on 01/06/2008

Aussies are more racist than any other cricket playing nation and its even at domestic grass root level . I have been playing club cricket in australia for last 7 years & the amount of racism, vulgus & racila abuse i have copped , is too much.
Just last weekend , i was reminded again that i should go back to where i came from & that i should only speak in english when playing in australia.
Aussies are bad loosers for sure not all of them but certainly it started from steve waugh, shane warne & macgrath & will hopefully finish at ponting.

They don't play tough cricket, they play dirty cricket especially when they are loosing , thats is why i don't think they are true champions .

Posted by: jayswami on 01/06/2008

this is a carefully plotted consipiracy to put mental pressure on india and also eliminate ponting's nemesis. this happens during every aussie tour.. media and cricket australia teams up against the visiting indians except tendulkar. they do all sorts of shady things.. in 1991-1992.. they apllied ful psychological pressure on the first tour game itself with the umpires (i think of of them has since been arrested for child molestation) penalized indian players for nothing. this time they are publishing reportsd on how indian team is veru castist and they give preference to brahmins.. this is nothing out of the ordinary.. aussies are sore losers, when they get threatened, they react badly.. like spectators thorwing bones at indians, and asking them to show visa.. indians cannot be racist if they call someone monkey. because indians worship the monkey god. jai shree hanuman and they let rabid monkeys run amok in new delhi and bit all their kids.. its the australians who are racist.

Posted by: kumar on 01/06/2008

Simply Ricky pointing feared of Harbhajan.He knows he cant play on the field ,he is trying to take revenge on the field .

Posted by: shaury on 01/06/2008

After having been run out in a one-day game against Sri Lanka in January 2003, Lehmann called his opponents "black c__ts".
Ponting was also for Darren Lehmann, he never cited him. Why complain when they are on recieving end?

Posted by: Simon Harper on 01/06/2008

How come whenever a topic comes up for discussion that involves an Australian player it turns into an "everyone abuse Australians" forum. I think all Australians are being racially abused, ironically, by people who are acusing australians of being racist. The hypocricy is unbelievable!

Posted by: Kith on 01/06/2008

Mr. kesavan seems to have pre-judged the situation though he laboriously go on to show his impartiality in commenting on it. When consider some of the things Aussies' have said in the past, the infamous "BLACK MONKEY" reference to Jayasuriya by Mr. MacGrath for one,all this is, looks pure hypocrisy. But, I admire Mr. Kevasan's penchant for creating a stir through his articulating ability.

Posted by: Anjo on 01/06/2008

Enough has been said in the comments about 'monkey' being an offensive term (the funniest being "Pete" whose claims that its unfathomable to understand how deep an insult it is for a black person, imagine the 'brown-skins' saying the term albino is extremely sensitive to white folk) and the history of racism in the game (which can be expected but not condoned from a colonial sport).

Unfortunately, Mukul has chosen to ape the Australian media and add his own little twist to the saga... this could change cricket forever... again! A look at the author's previous articles shows this theme springs up a lot. Mukul has a keen eye for picking the most inane facts, draining every last drop of controversy (oh noes, look at the blog category) and asserting their permanent impact on the game. Surprisingly, cricket has survived all these 'events', and most likely will continue to. Mukul wrote of racial hypocrisy on Chappel, Punter and Bhajji, some might note his article to the BBC stank of it too.

Posted by: Ram on 01/06/2008

Mukul

Did Aussies promise you premanent residency?

Posted by: ksm on 01/06/2008

australian behavior disgusting period

Posted by: SR on 01/06/2008

Love the angry reactions to all these hypocrites posting here. They cry racism when someone looks at them twice but everything they say is fine and justified and should be understood by the other party. Whine away...the Aussie streak lives on. Am an Indian btw enjoying the glory of this great Australian dynasty.

Posted by: Filterkaapi on 01/06/2008

Its nothing but a case of sour grapes for the aussies. The Indians have been the only ones in recent times who have challeneged the Aussies's supremacy & hence they are not liking it.When we play well against them, they swear n have a bit of what they term as 'LIGHT' & 'FRIENDLY' banter. When we start giving them their medicine back they call it 'RACIAL'abuse. They just cannot swallow the fact that the Indians have put them on the backfoot. Quote Steve Waugh "The Indians doctor their pitches". "The Aussies doctor the umpires"! The fact that the umpiring has been so poor, poor is not a word to descirbe the umpiring!lol! Four umpiring errors in the first innings against the Indians. 2nd innings, Dravid's dismissal was laughable. His bat was behind his pad. It was not even visible. Hidden it was.

Posted by: Asha Kiran on 01/06/2008

I don't get it, I just don't. Looks like Aussies get things their way. They abuse with vulgar comments and complain when somebody hits back. They talk about no need for technology and honesty of players yet they appeal for things that seemingly look ridiculous and they don't walk when they edge the ball. Finally who decided "Monkey" is racial, to be honest the way Symonds puts on white lipstick he looks like a monkey anyway, oh by the way Shaun Pollock looks like a monley to me too, is that racial too??? Common Mukul this is the stupidest thing I've heard from you. Trust me I live in USA and I know what racism is and a cultural difference is. Stop playing for the Aussie tune.

Posted by: gurinder on 01/06/2008

is Harbhajan invited for beatiful conversation, he is son in law of Austrialian

Posted by: Javaid Abbasi on 01/06/2008

Poor Australians are now acting as cry babies now that they are getting a taste of their own medicine. They deserve it. I say,give them some more, only then will they straighten up and treat others with respect. They have asked for it and it was long coming. They deserve every bit of it. I still remember the racist Lehman, Mcgrath,and many others.

Posted by: Harsh Suri on 01/06/2008

I guess Aussies are honest sportsmen except when it is crunch situations...Symonds did not walk, Ponting did not walk in first innings (if either had walked Aussies would have lost by an innings) and now Dravid's dismissal in 2nd innings (per mark Taylor's commnet, the players know it) and I doubt if Aussies did not know that Dravid is not out. Again with Ganguly's dismissal if you look at the replay which shows the ball through Benson's legs, the ball was grassed. (and not to forget Ponting was diappointed on a catch for Dhoni which he himself had grassed). Way to go Aussies, this victory should carry an asterisk.

Posted by: sukh on 01/06/2008

bigest raceist is mukul ,do he has something against punjabi players his writing always has to do something with yuvi and bhaji

Posted by: shree on 01/06/2008

Ricky's boyz win again. Man of the match should be given to steve bucknor for his outstanding performance. I agree the Aussies played well but the decisions made the whole difference. Even in the 2nd innings of india the horrible decision making continues. When ricky's boyz couldn do anythin with the ball they went to their cheap ways to play mind games by playin the blame game on harbajan. The umpires shuld also be charged the match fees for their horrifing performance. If theres anything yet left in the game of cricket then ICC should take serious note of it. Such patehtic attitude of Aus and horrible decision makin of steve bucknor shuld be penalized.

Posted by: pp on 01/06/2008

I find the Mr.Kesavan to be one sided, it is a known fact that Australians are notorious for bad language, in fact even one of the commentators is banned from doing a racial joke. [Dean Jones]
I doubt Mr.Kesavan's cricketing knowledge, seems too shallow, Symonds is yet to prove his case.

My guess is umpiring blunders are digressed. Ponting wants to get to the record, beg, borrow or cheat....

Posted by: Raj on 01/06/2008

Mukul

Stop posting this kind of nonsense stuff where everyone knows how this Ausies are .. They never walk away when they are out and always famous for their sledging when they are out in field. Just take a look of current two dismissals of Dravid and Ganguly.. I am sure you will stop writing like this.

Regards

Keep going

Posted by: Smith on 01/06/2008

I think this blog is not worth a response. My request to all is not to respond to these third rated thoughts of a person who is out of his mind.

Posted by: Beach on 01/06/2008

Its hardly worth it playing against a bunch of no-good, completely out of integrity, desperate to win, lying bunch of losers like the Aussie cricket team.

Posted by: Filterkaapi on 01/06/2008

As Mr. Avanidhar has said, the author is just pandering to the anglo saxons that run cricinfo.There is no conclusive evidence that Harbhajan indeed said something like that.

Posted by: Rubik Roy on 01/06/2008

If Harbhajan is found guilty and banned for a couple of tests (or for life as Mr Kesavan desires) then all 11 Australian players ought to be not only banned for life but also prosecuted for using profane language in a public place. It is an offence to swear in a public place in Australia and the Australians have employed the f-word (amongst other curses) on countless occasions since Boxing Day (and you need'nt have been a lip reader to confirm that). The amount of media coverage of the Symonds controversy in Australian papers (since the tour of India) is unprecedented in recent times. What is amazing is whilst Australian sports journalists have historically supported their players so wholeheartedly, even to the point of impartiality, Indian sports journalists have been extremely reticent in supporting their compatriots. They did not back Ganguly when he was down (indeed they lynched him) and now when Harbhajan is accused of racism they are afraid of giving him a fair go.

Posted by: Sameer Padhye on 01/06/2008

I write this comment as I watch in horror the atrocities committed by bucknor,benson n that stupid 3rd umpire(3rd rate to be precise). 99.94%(bradmansque) of the poor decisions have gone against india in this match. I have followed matches taking place in Oz for many years now n I can safely say that they are biggest cheaters in cricket.What a good partnership symonds n bucknor have forged in this test match.I guess bucknor empathises with symonds.
I have no sympathy for symonds.The aussies are just trying to win public support.

Posted by: Filterkaapi on 01/06/2008

In the4th para, can you count how many times you are contradicting yourself Mr. Keshavan. First u say that sachin will not be able to say that harbhajan was not guilty. Then u say that sachin will see it below his honour to support someone who has done this. then u say that in public sachin has clearly said that harbhajan did not say anything racist. then u again say that since in the case of a hearing, sachin will speak of what happened which will turn the tide in favour of the aussies. when sachin has come out & said that harbhajan did not say anything pertaining to racism then why are u beating around the bush.

Mr. Keshavan can you please tell me according to which report did Mr Chetan Chauhan say that 'Monkey' isnt a derogatory word in Indian usage. First of all 'Monkey' isnt a Hindi word with reference to Indian usage. Its Bandar. A

Posted by: K N Haksar on 01/06/2008

Why is it not clear to all that in India there are no references to Race as there are no racial features. After 1947 the GOI abolished any reference to Race. Symonds must be hallucinating his English white brethren who delight in Racial Slurs and the black folks love to retaliate in kind by calling similar derogatory names. The 'monkey' epithet, all Indians know, relates to antics than racial reference. The stupidity of conjuring up that Harbhajan called Symonds a monkey simply proves that it is a blatantant lie.
I am more concerned about the spineless BCCI ruining the careers of our players. I think its about time the Consumers and Contributors to the coffers of the BCCI must find a way to take action against the BCCI if it plays the second fiddle to the Aussies, English and such others. Since Symonds is black it is a cheap ploy to raise the bogey of racism.

Posted by: Bharat on 01/06/2008

I am quite surprised at the focus on "racism" - why is there no outrage that this was a well planned entrapment by Ponting & Co ? If anyone does take action on Harbhajan, it would be a shame if Symmonds and Ponting were not suspended at the same time (though may be for 1/2 the number of tests).
Ponting has really made a mess of what has been a real well contested India-Aussie exchanges. No doubt Australia this go around is a superior side, but what could have been a good series is now another distasteful series. [Just look at how Clarke convinced everyone he caught Ganguly clean, when it seems clear he had grassed it - now should someone ban him for being a cheat ?]

Posted by: gurinder on 01/06/2008

is Harbhajan invited for beatiful conversation, The blog owner is heirs of Jai Chand who invited outsiders to raid india and they ruled number of centuries. Traitor stop writing aganist india

Posted by: Vikram Munikoti on 01/06/2008

Why aren't the Aussies ever pulled up for offensive behavior? Why weren't Michael Clark and Ricky Ponting fined for dissent? Why wasn't Brett Lee chastised for arguing with the umpire (when he questioned the umpire's ruling on an LBW appeal)? And most importantly, why is Symonds being portrayed as the victim (by an Indian journalist no less)??

Had the same actions been committed by non-white cricketers, I'm sure they'd have been caught in a massive crap-storm.

BTW: Congratulations to the aussies for making it 16 in a row...even if the umpires had to bend over backwards for them to make it happen.

Posted by: Gautam on 01/06/2008

I wonder why cricinfo never has articles speaking about the behavior of the Australian players .. if cricinfo is to be believed, Australians play aggressive hard cricket .. other teams are simply abusing their opponents when they display the same behavior .. the only thing is if Bhajji has used racist words, he deserves to be punished for it .. else Australia need to be reminded that we are not here to hear their false complaints

Posted by: murali on 01/06/2008

I absolutely agree that racism of any kind has no place in sport and should be dealt with extremely harshly. India definitely has its fair share of racism and Australia record is very poor on this front. Having said that I have several concerns: (1) The current case is one of he said/she said - who adjudicates? Given the way the three umpires have behaved, there seems to be a definite bias in the bad decisions made through out this match - will this refect itself in the hearing? (2) I can honestly state that in India a "son of a @#%^" or the 4 letter f-word is much bigger insult than calling someone a monkey - I am not defending any racist activity, however the ethnic background determines the context of what is racist - "Kaalia" etc are more commonly used deragotary terms in this context. (3) Bhajji is from a small town in India - his grasp of the English language continues to improve. He probably is not as adept at sledging as the Aussies are.

Posted by: Filterkaapi on 01/06/2008

One of the dont'sof this site.
"comments about bias by officials against specific teams or players"

Its funny to see why three posts of mine havent been approved by Keshavan since i guess he deems them to be 'BIASED'

Isn't your whole article, Mr. Mukul Keshavan biased against the Indians? Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ash on 01/06/2008

Mukul, Are you trying to get more readers for your writing by writing against Indians? Are you an Australian citizen. I know many guys like you who became brown by mistake. I'm very sorry to say that you really suck this job!

Posted by: i_stay_with_good on 01/06/2008

complaining about some1 from subcontinent by Aussies who set sledging yardstick is not good... Australia exposed. Its time to shed off dominance costume and take on defense

Posted by: brij b. garg on 01/06/2008

I just want to say that punish who is wrong. If harbhajan is found guilt, punish him. BUT, puncih aussies too when they are wrong. Every one sees on live telecast how they keep on sledging to provoke players. Isnt provoking an offense?

Aussies and many other cricket teams have been found to indulge into confrontations with players from sub continent and its the sub continent players always on the receivng end. the law should be fair for all. Aussies over appeal a LOT. they never et charged for it. andre nel from SA sledges openly and walks by the umpire with a smile on his face. Is that smile a permit to sledge?

Somehow, ICC is not fair. Sub continent generates more the 70 % of he icc revenue and still land up on the receiivng end. Something needs to be done about it.


also the number of unfair umpiring dismissals which were SO important in the context of the game, is high. Umpirirng standards have been on a decline and new umpires with better skills should brought in.

Posted by: Sudhakar G on 01/06/2008

Mukul, even if Harbhajan had made a racial remark, why should he be punished. For too long, Australians have stretched what they can utter in the field, bringing in batsman's relationship with their mothers and sisters. This is certainly worse compared to the so called racial abuses. If ICC cannot take action on one, why should it take action on the other. Beats me!

Posted by: Racist Roy on 01/06/2008

To the snifflebag OnionBag. If the Aussies don't even care, why did they care to play the T20 tournament? By the way, there's been too many bad decisions against India in this match. How do you expect to play to win, when you get a load of bad decisions, not to mention a prejudiced umpire and a third umpire getting decisions wrong. Looks like it's Ricky Ponting running the show on the field more than the umpires. One more fraudulent dismissal of Rahul Dravid and the blatant cheating in claiming a catch of Ganguly by Michael Clarke. Would appreciate it if they won fair and square instead of cheating in this manner.

Posted by: hpur on 01/06/2008

australian team is a bunch of cry babies... oops was that a racist comment????

Posted by: Adam on 01/06/2008

I think we need to draw a line between banter and racist banter. Racism is unacceptable, but I don't have a problem with banter between the teams - ALL of them do it and not just in cricket, everyone seems not to have mentioned the petulant way Ganguly refused to go when caught a short time ago. But there is a line and if Harbijan crossed it he deserves the full weight of the law.

Oh and for the ignorant people who accused Australia of genocide (a desperate ploy when we're supposed to be talking about a game!) - I'm Aboriginal.

Posted by: Sunny on 01/06/2008

A brown person calling a fellow brown person a monkey? Quite odd. This situation is the by-product of a cultural misunderstanding. Calling a person of colour a monkey in the West has vastly different connotations to the same word being used in India. To this day in European football the worst taunt a coloured footballer can endure is a monkey chant. The implication from the aggressors being that black players resemble monkeys and are somehow genetically inferior to their white counterparts. In India, calling someone a monkey has less to do with racial superiority, than it does calling a fat person a pig, or a tall person a giraffe. Monkeys hold an important place in Hindu mythology. The God Hanuman, himself is a monkey. Sports men and women pray to Hanuman for strength and success on the sporting field. It needs to be made clear to the Indian cricketers and Baji in particular that calling someone a monkey in the West is not on. Until then, steps towards reconciliation are futile.

Posted by: Shrinagesh on 01/06/2008

I made some remark against you Kesavan on your prejuduces. Hi Kesavan by not publishing my words, you have proved me right that you are a charlatan who makes money by abusing India. You are a coward and it is by some luck that you found a publisher for your nonsensical writings.Shameless chap..you are..aren't you? You know that any way and you dont need me say that Kesava.

Posted by: monkey roy on 01/06/2008

Dumb### benson trusted the guy who stood his ground after a blatantly obvious edge. aussie hypocrites, talk about playing the game in the right spirit. Sore losers, and biggest hypocrites out there.

Posted by: Cricket Lover on 01/06/2008

All this ridiculous chatter on the field must stop. And, the guilty party(ies) in this fiasco must be punished, whether it is Harbhajan or Symonds or whoever. Racism, or reverse-racism, should both be dealt with harshly.
A return to the traditional approach, of letting the on-field performance rather than the tongue wag, would do a world of good.

Posted by: hokumchand rewah on 01/06/2008

australians cricketers and critics have all the time been harassing the indians. they win because the umpires make blunders in favor of them. i feel that no cricketing nation likes the indians because we are the greatest democratic nation and our culture and heritage proves what kind of people we are. the australina should stop their nonsense.

Posted by: Singh on 01/06/2008

It is too early to blame Harbhajan. Even if, let us assume, Harbhajan called Symonds a Monkey. Symonds must have said some unprintable words to him. Sledging does really mean anything after-words. Similarly, 'Monkey' words does not really mean after-words. It is just part of the moment when the banter and/or name calling is going on. We have to give benefit of doubt to Harbhajan. There is no such thing as honourable sledging. Once you start sledging, you cannot not expect other person to react in kind. We do not know, what Symonds said to Harbhajan. I cannot imagine, discussion was about weather and Harbhajan started discussing Monkeys. Mukul is dead wrong on this one.

This match truly showed true values of this Australian team. Follow something which suites you. Ponting has become partially honest. His does not want catches to be referred to third umpire as outcome is mostly not-out for batsman. But Ponting does not want walk if he feathered the ball. How can one be honest in one situation and not honest in another situation? This rage regarding Harbhajan from Ponting follows the similar pattern. It suits Ponting to complain about it. I am sure, this is not first time, Symonds is called a ‘monkey’ nor it is the last time.

Posted by: sadheesh on 01/06/2008

The Aussies can go around the world saying things that offend cricketers on and off the field but we in Asia are all of sudden brough to court!!!
Andre Nel appeals and talks more than he bowls...but Sreesanth cannot, because he is from Asia!!!...... Who is fooling whom!

Posted by: adesai on 01/06/2008

It is because of people like you we are so far behind. People like you do not back own team, aussie media tore us apart in their publishings. This is a game and the bad goes with a good. You are a traitor and coward for writing against your own county. By the way...just wondering if you are on some type of medication.

Posted by: Amal on 01/06/2008

I find it really hard to believe that Indians have started giving racial abuse to other countries. This, after their crowds had done the same to Australia in India. This indeed is an amazing turn of events.

On the subject of calling others monkeys, I wonder where you would find more people that resemble monkeys... India or Australia.>? Food for thought for those that indulge in this business. Shameful indeed...!

Posted by: cricfan on 01/06/2008

the way things have happened, I do not see Aussie's complaint against Harbajan as true, its just another mind game

Posted by: Laxmi on 01/06/2008

First of all, what proof do these aussies have, to say that Harbhajan Singh used the word "monkey" in a racial manner?
Australians,say it,but they can't take it.
If they alledge falsly like this,then what kind of severe action could we take regardless of they're talks!
They have definetely said far more racial,and abusive words then probably any of us.
This is clearly injustice,and I think that they should realise what they are doing first.
Has anyone even heard about any racial or abusive things from the Indian cricket team in the past?. . .
And did anyone think if Harbhajan Singh really did say this, what was the core reason for it?
Aussies always think that they're right,and if you really think about it, they have said heaps of racist comments about us before.
Where is the respect for us?
And "monkey" would be absolutely nothing compared to what ever they say on the field.
I would just say that Symonds has no right to make such an issue out of blatant lies.

Posted by: Kris on 01/06/2008

It is about time that Aussie cricketers are given a taste of their own medicine. lets accept the fact that Aussie cricketers have never been known to be "true sportsmen". The old west indians, the older indians, the old english, all walked when they knew there out, but never an Aussie cricketer. And as far as on field sledging is concerned who better than Aussies to set an example. Its only when they get some back what they dish out is when they cry foul. A simple rule " if you give out abuse you need to be prepared to receive in return".. its about time the Aussie cricketers are taught the new rules of the game. if u cant take slander then dont dish out. or else monkeys you will all be.

Posted by: Buttsy on 01/06/2008

I was going to try to make some reasonable comments here, but most correspondents seem to think that Harbhajan must be in the right because he is Indian. Well, that makes sense. Some of you see conspiracies and devious plans and plots eveywhere. Could it be that he simply overstepped the mark, and now has to face the consequences? And finally, how can the Australians be poor losers? They never lose! Perhaps that's why you are all so upset.

Posted by: Animesh Barua on 01/06/2008

I was looking the archives of Cricinfo-blogs for any posting/editorial or comments from this very Mr Keshavan on the incidents where McGrath called Jayasuriya a black monkey and Darren Lehmann called Sri Lankans black c---s? Was Mr Kesh a teenager at that time? You guys know whats the meaning og ABCD?

Posted by: Sathya on 01/06/2008

Mr.Hunt: What you are saying is to take Ponting and Symonds complaint with out any scrutiny. What Mukul wrote in his blog indirectly is, Ponting is no saint and if there is no proof then benefit of doubt should be given to Harbhajan. Get it? If Aussies entire case is "Bhajji is a repeat offender", so are Symonds and Ponting.

Posted by: john smith on 01/06/2008

Agree with satya narendra. The angry posts accusing other sides and nations of bastardry and poor sportsmanship would be much easier to read if the posts werent 99% bastardry and poor sportsmanship themselves.

The part that I dont understand is that after all the commotion in India after the last episode (crowd monkey-taunting Symonds), you would expect the Indian team to be well acquainted with the fact that using the term to describe a foreign player is regarded as racist. In this respect, if Harbhajan has used the word again, he deserves to be punished severely, for stupidity if nothing else.

Posted by: Rajat Gupta on 01/06/2008

Lets first take the issue of poor decisions. I guess the indian media has forgotten about the England series last year. On the last day of the Lords' test when India was battling to save the test and the last wicket was on the crease, a clear caught behind decision was not given and the day ended due to bad light. There was no hue n cry made by the INDIAN media coz india saved the test and later won the series. So please get over the poor umpiring issue. Indians have also benefitted majorly out of it many a times. Coming to the racism part, how do we treat foreigners coming to India on the streets?? We oogle at them, call them GORE... Do we respect them when they are in our country. Now we might argue that GORE is not a racist slur. But my friends commenting about anybodys' color amounts to racism. How would you like if somebody addresses your unusual looks with a peculiar word. I think the Indian camp isn't sure whether Bhajji said it or not. Lets wait!! All the best Bhajji.....

Posted by: Craig on 01/06/2008

I dont believe some of these responses, if monkey was not racist and offensice why was that supporter eject from the ground in India during the last one day series between the teams,Talk about havinga chip on your shoulder, always the victim, when Sreesanth was sledging he was held up as a god in india because he was aggressive.A bloody pack of whingers, A lot of people are saying its only a set up as Ponting is Harbhajans bunny.Been listening to tony Greig to much i thinbk who still has mental scars from 74/75 when flogged by australia

Posted by: Prathap on 01/06/2008

Aussies are known for their onfield indiscipline...they go to any extent to win. That includes making derogatory personal remarks. why is so much made out this incident. Its kind of double standards...what about the mcgrath ramesh sarwan spat. why doesnt the slater sledging dravid incident never gets mentioned...why doesnt andrew nell get pulled up for his behaviour but sreesanth does! why is it that michael vaughans comment during a recent series about contentious umpiring decisions didnt attract any action from ICC!
So ricky pontings alleging that racial comments were made is so absurd. The gaurdians of the game need to be unbiased in enforcing the law...the same actions is not taken on SA or aussie player when they break rules as is taken on sreesant. Its just that indian repliy to aussie sledging is being painted as racism.... may be it would help if symonds and hayden keep their mouth closed during the game.

Posted by: jay on 01/06/2008

Cricket is a RIGGED sport. It asks Asian teams to play with one arm tied behind their backs so that Australia and England can continue to crow about how great and wonderful they are. The umpires are biased and the rules are enforced selectively. Anglo-Aussie fans deny this vehemently. It is blindly obvious to everyone else, but no more so than to the Asian players themselves, who are unsurprisingly 'gagged' by the authorities to prevent them spilling the beans.

India recently beat England 1-0 despite Tendulkar, Ganguly and Dravid being targetted by the umpires. To beat the Aussies with the deck stacked against you is virtually impossible, not to mention the deeply demoralising effect of knowing that you are being continuously cheated.

Well done, Mukul, as always for pointing out these dirty double standards. I would go further. Punish Harbhajan for racist abuse by all means if found guilty, but punish Ponting even more severely for abusing the system, if not.

Posted by: Objecive Guy on 01/06/2008

Mr Kesavan's tone suggests that he believes that Harbhajan is in fact guilty. What if the charges can't be proved? Would that mean that Ponting and Co.are lying? What punishment should then be given to them? Should they then be banned--something that he is suggesting for Harbhajan? We could do with some objectivity Mr Kesavan.

Posted by: francis on 01/06/2008

this australian side is obsessed to winning.that had been good if these monkeys knew their lines.remember an incident i think in the last match of the odi series in india where ponting referred to dhoni's complaining to the umpire as childish behaviour now what shud we say to it!!Kudos to Harbhajan if he called symonds a monkey!!
this is as if permitting killing by hanging and call strangling an offence(abusing otherwise)!!
If the ICC consider racial abuses derogatory to game are the other forms of abuses winning you applauses!!!
this ICC is a slave to english and the aussies!

Posted by: Jonathan on 01/06/2008

Guys,
There is a difference between sledging and racist comments. There is a NEW ICC rule against racist behavior. It wasn't in force during McGrath's time, but it is now. Aussies sledge but don't make racist comments. Indians don't know how to sledge. Harbhajan might have crossed the line - but will probably escape sanction due to lack of evidence.

Posted by: Norman Wicks on 01/06/2008

The issue is racism not sledging. After the incidents in India recently the use of the word monkey was shown to be offensive and racist.

From an Australian point of view the Indian Team and Indians appears to consider that only white teams can be racist. This issue will fester and get worse unless some action is taken. Sledging is not the Issue.

Lehmann did suffer penalties for this actions not just formally but with all this crap from Indian supporters it would appear that what I have said above is true.

Posted by: neoindia on 01/06/2008

It is not only in Cricket where one rule applies for the Australians and another for the Non Australians. It is in every sphere at schools,both State and Federal governments. Australia is the most Racist country in the world. Australians have robbed the country from the Aboriginals and the Torres Stait Islander.

Posted by: Mark on 01/06/2008

This article does not deserve to be on the front page of cricinfo.com. There is no opposing/alternative opinion being shown on the front page.
Assuming that cricinfo.com is aware of its responsibilities as a widely-read publication whose content is respected, the only conclusion I can draw from this is that cricinfo.com is publishing its own opinion. If Kesavan's extreme demands are representative of this, then I am appalled.

I wont bother to elaborate on my opinion because it has been mirrored (eloquently, even) in the comments section by SINGH, MURALI, BHARAT, RUBIK & RACIST ROY, AVANIDHAR etc.

I think a selection of these comments must go to the front page if cricinfo is going to put "punish severely if found guilty" in print.

Mukul Kesavan, your comments reveal you to be an illogical person out of touch with cultural and cricketing realities. Either that or really well paid.

Posted by: karan dhooper on 01/06/2008

aussies did it. india was screwed out of this match. bcci needs to take some action now. this match was india's match but thanks to the very poor umpiring decisions and mind games by aussies i hope when they prove harbhajan did not racially abuse symonds indian team charges a complains about the crybaby tactics that aussies applied to win this game i lost all my respect for aussies after this game. i have to say that they are not the best in the world they are beatable. its a sad day in cricket world.

Posted by: Ajay on 01/06/2008

Aussies can do anything for winning the game. The whole team of austrelia are only "PLAYING THE GAMES" not playing the cricket.
The worst team i ever think on the horizon are the aussies. The cheaters, the media and the umpires everyone is playing for the white skin.
The worse game of RACISM is seen at sydney cricket ground. The total sprotman spirit is died in the austrelians.
Shamae .......shame for such a cheating victory.........

Posted by: skraz on 01/06/2008

some of the people here are bordering on racist themselves.

also if you look at the tape, singh called symonds over, called him something and that made symonds go off, then the umpires talked to singh.

symonds didnt start it, singh did by calling him over to say something.

i hope it wasnt a racist comment and just a normal sledge as i feel racism has no place in the game.

Posted by: Sam on 01/06/2008

It is time to stop this nonsense. The Aussies are getting away with both being transgressors and benefactors. They use racial abuse and sledge opponents constantly and when the Indians react, we get -punished enough is enough. By the way let's congratulate the Aussies and the umpires for cheating their way to a win in Sydney. The decisions against both Dravid and Ganguly were disgraceful. Worse without referring to the Third Umpire, Benson gave Ganguly out caught based on Ponting's gestures. I suggest that Asian and South African umpires be utilized ONLY for the return series in India later this year. In the meantime to Symonds, Ponting and Clarke- Carry On Cheating!

Posted by: dhruv on 01/06/2008

"Monkey"...this is all about "monkey" - how is that "racist"? No court of law is going to uphold that. What if anyone was called "giraffe" or "salamander"? Is that racist too? Or wait, monkeys are related to us genetically closer than other animals. If this is about monkey, I think it's silly - if there's more, well, it should be judged accordingly. I find it hard to believe worse words have not been used on the field. And, if anything, Ponting's appealing off grassed chances and claiming Ganguly's catch today, confirms there's more to him than his word - I wouldn't take it. I guess Harbhajan has earned the right to call him "bunny". Grow up.

Posted by: Subhash Chandra on 01/06/2008

BCCI proves that we are still not independent and being ruled by English and white man. We are still worshiping them by making their music videos, giving them advertisment. Greg shows us a finger and he awarded with a position in criket accademy. Maorty of money is genertaed by Asian Cricket playing country and others are having there bread and butter because every time we speak up, fine is imposed which goes to ICC.

Our players are rich enough to feed them. But now it is too much, whether its a case of favoured umpiring or racial abuse, we asians are always at receiving end. Requesting all true supporters of the game too boycott teams like Australia. Only on the death bed these australian players can confess how they have made into cricket history. Shame on australians, I really surprised how this country has produced some great players like Bradman. And also support the body line series, that should have been done now with them.

Posted by: kazim on 01/06/2008

Enough about this.To an Indian, being called a 'bastard' or having your mother mentioned in a foul meaning sentence is worse; Asians take great exception that, to the extent that murders have happened. Because the West feels guilty about the racist ideology that IT inflicted on other races, the bar has been set so high that it seems like an attempt to atone for that. We Asians never tried established or implied our racial superiority over other races or nationality. We do take pride in character and moral rectitude. To have anyone sledge and imply an illegitimate birth via name calling is more heinous in culpability that calling someone a monkey.

Posted by: Rocky on 01/06/2008

Harbhajan is not the kind of player who will say any bad comments related to racism. Its the overall frustration of Ricky Ponting, symonds that made them to false allegations. Moreover, whole Australian team was able to win the match because of biased umpiring. Currently their team doesn't stand in front of indian cricket team. Reality is that they have eventually lost the test match because of making irresponsible comments and shameful umpiring decisions.

Posted by: Sumantics on 01/06/2008

Anyone with only slight vision left in their eyes could see who was more aggressive of the two in the exchange. And why the hell does this post read like it was ghost-written by Matthew Hayden? I completely agree with Avanidhar - well said. Stop with this subservience already! The Australians are all the words they use against other teams - enough said. And leave poor Bhajji alone!

Posted by: Mick on 01/06/2008

You guys should all get together pat each other on the back and repeat "Indians are incapable of racism over and over. If you say it enough it might even reverse the facts of Mumbai etc and Harbhajan and become true.

In the meantime...2-0! Maybe next time kiddies.

Posted by: db on 01/06/2008

Mukul, I am amazed by your desire to see Bhajji get punished. That's your bias, for whatever reason. I was expecting a more unbiased view, given that you wrote this prior to the hearing. But then that's just me. Thanks for your part in stoking the fires - cricket surely needs this (sic).

Posted by: Esmond Lange on 01/06/2008

Australia are an excellent cricket team, but they are terrible sportsmen... They have perefcted verbal abuse and intimidation of umpires and are also very good at taking the spotlight off their sub standard ethics. I ask, would you for example play golf with people who believe cheating is not cheating unles you get caught? I certainaly would not!! Yes, they have a record, but what is its worth when it is achieved dishonourably?

Posted by: Indian on 01/06/2008

Probably the writer forgot what Aussies do... why wasn't McGrath banned when he asked RamNaresh Sarwan that derogatory question.. Its more of like Aussies acting like cry-babies and people like the writer in whatever mind they are in says that bhajji shd be banned? Is the writer mentally sound?

Posted by: Sudhanshu Mishra on 01/06/2008

hey mukul, r u an indian???????
plzz answer me, dont u no since decades indian players hav faced insults n and racial taunts, did ICC den take ant steps.
ONE SUCH INSTANCE:

i dont remember d name of d player but i think it was d england captain who once said dat Vijay Merchant bats really well, y not paint his face in white n take hm 2 england.

wasnt it a racial taunt mukul. Bhajji, i believ is cent percent innocent, d legend sachin is supportin him and even if he is guily, y is it dat ol rules r again blacks only.

mukul, i m surprised 2 read ur article n at d same time disappointed

Posted by: srini on 01/06/2008

Calling someone monkey is very normal in India and it is certainly not racist. It just indicates that the recipient is "mischievous". If these stupids in cricinfo do not understand this and keep sucking up to every "white skinned" idiots then these are the guys who are racists.

Of all the cricketers Australian cricketers are the one to complain about racism and the whole world is licking their feet. If anyone indulges in racist sledging then it is the Australians.

Shame on cricinfo and the suckups who write columns and blogs here. It stinks up the whole cricketing world.

Posted by: Sridhar on 01/06/2008

Wow, monkey is a racist term. Mukul, get your facts right and for God's sake get some cultural lessons. Monkey is not a racist term in India - it could be in Australia. In fact, the term "Monkey" is often used in humorous tone in India. Symmo might have been called Monkey by the crowds because of his comical appearance with dreadlocks and the sunscreen around the mouth. In fact, the f*** and other swears used by Aussies to sledge others are considered really vulgar in Indian culture.

One thing is certain, Aussies have lost a lot of Indian fans in recent months. They talk of showing character but lack it in them totally. Double standards, all the way!

Posted by: sanjit on 01/06/2008

i fnd kesavans views very trite and onesided!Why is bhaaji being pronounced guilty and consigned for a life ban!Let us look at the history of recent int cricket and realize that no aussie has ever been punished in the recent past for any misdeamenour-If warnie and waugh spoke to some people on the state of the pitch(sic)they are warned+the news comes out after 2 years!Jadeja nd Azhar got banned pronto!I have had the privilege to watch matches involving the aussies and must confess their on field behaviour most often resembles their ancestors ! I would also like to state up front - ICC pardons the "White Team behaviour" much more quickly than other teams who's skin color is darker !the aussies are a great cricketing team , but they get away with everything ,including having umpires as friends,as someone jokingly said,it was very difficult to decide who would be the man of match in sydney!Bucknor or Benson? i remember in school a friend was called chimp -were we racist- No !just real !!

Posted by: rocknrollstar on 01/06/2008

I am behind Bhajji all the way...he is a warrior and he is extremely competitive especially against the Aussies, who are the best cricket team at present. He gives it back to them and they obviously dont like it. Ricky has taken this route by reporting him and we all know why.... Did you guys notice after the match was over not a single Aussie player complimented the Indian team for a competitive game.

Posted by: john smith on 01/06/2008

Unfortunatley, racism is indeed prevalent in all the countries. India is no exception. This "holier than thou attitude" from Aussies is surprising as they have a long legacy of racism against non whites.I vaguley remember Lehman had similar incidence against I believe Jayasuria a few years ago. I do not think that Lehman suffered any sever penalty in that episode.

i think is was 7 or 8 ODI's
same punishment
get over it
if you can't do the time DON"T DO THE CRIME

Posted by: Warrington on 01/06/2008

To quote Singh "This rage regarding Harbhajan from Ponting", what rage? From the vision which was televised Ponting looked controlled & calm.
As for Ponting squealing, the captians have been ordered to report any incident involving what could be described as "Racial". With all the cameras & all the media buzz could he have got away with the glib response which Sachin gave in the post match press conference. I think not.

Posted by: Narendran on 01/06/2008

i was shocked upon reading this article.its a shame that indian people still go bootlicking the whites with their "anti-indian" and "submissive" attitude! have you ever heard of an aussie journalist going against the aussies when they sledge??
i request cricinfo to stop pubilsihing such nonsense articles in the future.even if we assume that harbhajan made a vile remark,what rights do the aussies have to talk about him? whatever happened to the "mental disintegration" thingy?the aussies should remember that they are bound to get replies for their remarks and it would be better if they acted like men instead of sissies...how often has the icc upheld india's complaints??these is is just stupid.
and regarding ponting....lets jus rewind to a few months back when aussies were touring india..remember the last match where karthik admitted he nicked one and later on ponting mentined "it would have been easier if karthik had been truthful and just walked!"...now what did ponting do this time??

Posted by: micah on 01/06/2008

guys...lets ignore this mukul or whatever and stop reading his articles from NOW on...he is just trying to cash in our emotional outburts!

Posted by: Mike Hunt II on 01/06/2008

For Australia to be "sore-losers", don't they actually have to lose a game first?!? 16 in a row - now off to Perth :)
17 in a row.....

Posted by: Harry on 01/06/2008

I think the "monkey" tag has to do with the white lip cream he puts on - anyone who puts that looks funny. However if the comments do have racist connotations then a ban for couple of games seems the right way to go and not the lifelong one ban recommened by the author.

Posted by: Rishi on 01/06/2008

Well.. there is no conclusive evidence to confirm that Harbhajan called Symonds a monkey. you all know that so we will never know...the only thing i want to say is..
Calling a black man black can be considered racism...but the only way calling any man monkey can be considered racism is if that man is a monkey...
Indian have given the name Tiger to Ganguly lovingly. why has he not lodged a complaint with anyone about racism...
What’s so bad about calling anyone a monkey. Are they so bad.. Definitely not in India...there is a monkey god in India... If I was a monkey, i probably would have filed a formal complaint against Australian team for racism..

Posted by: Sridhar on 01/06/2008

Just search for "Micheal Slater Sledging" in Google and you will get all the evidence for this "thou holier than thee" HUMAN's double standards. He is not fit to talk about sledging and abusing.

Posted by: George W. Bush on 01/06/2008

Racism in any form can not be tolerated. The Aussies are past masters of racist attitude/ behaviour; yet they go away scot free every time. I say - give it back to them. If what Bhajji is alleged to have commented is true, then I say "congratulations" to him.

The only regret I have about the Indian crowds exhibiting racist behaviour during the Aussie tour of India, is that they targeted Symonds, who is a native Aussie and not one of those white convicts (excluding Gilchrist) who have no qualms of dishing out racist comments while being unable to take any themselves.

Posted by: Rajesh Udayamurthy on 01/06/2008

If calling Andrew a Monkey was raciscm what did andrew call Sreesanth a goose in Press? what was that

Posted by: Narendran on 01/06/2008

did he walk or what?not at all!!the same is with symonds! and then,those two pathetic decisions india got in the last innings! what does the author have to say about them??it would be much better if the indian authors stopped this bootlickin business and started talking some sense.remember,we are an independent country and have every right to fight back if we are insulted.there is just no necessity to fall at their feet for every thing..and there is ABSOLUTELY no reason to go about carrying this inferiority complex.

Posted by: Vaibhav Mankame on 01/06/2008

Dear Mr. Kesavan.

Let me tell you that I have the Privilidge of playing against some Aussies and they are sore losers. As far as calling anyone a Monkey goes, I don't understand how that is being racist no matter what lineage Symonds comes from. We(humans) are all monkeys afterall. In any case this game of cricket makes a rubbish about being gentlemenly on the field. As long as there is no punches thrown at each other, I think some name calling should be left alone. This complaining etc. and having a Match Referee for crap like this is silly. The match referee should really be more proactive and be able to alter the incorrect umpiring decisions right away to keep the game in correct balance. His real job should be to override the blatant errors that Bucknor, Benson and the TV umpire made. We have reached an age where we need to grow out of the old colonial thinking and make the officials role in Cricket more practical to ensure a fair contest for the paying public.

Regards,
VM

Posted by: kaushik on 01/06/2008

Now that india has lost thnx mainly to poor umpiring decisions,senior players like kumble,dravid etc should pull out of the series and let players like raina,kaif, etc take their places in the side. This way they can boycott the way the last match was officiated and also allow future players get some experience and the sponsors cant do anything about it...that is the ideal way to boycott.

Posted by: Aditya Mohan on 01/06/2008

Kesavan- quit pandering to the goras. The Aussies have shown that they really can't stand up to challenge. BCCI should call off this tour if a) Bhajji is punished for saying anything to Symonds 'the Angel' b) These 2 umpires are called to stand in any other match and c) I would send a second string team to Oz to register their protest.

Posted by: Ethan Hunt on 01/06/2008

Boy are you honest! But have you ever played against an "Auzzie" as they call themselves. The whole business of sledging can be attributed to three teams England, South Africa and Australia. It is a culture cultivated by them. And quite honestly, Ricky Ponting, Michael Slater, Andrew Symonds et al. are no fair men. It does not mean that the rest of the world take their example. Australia have had a real good track record in International cricket but that is no reason why they should command respect otherwise. Frankly, they are not the best ambassadors of the game. You really want a turn on it, go read Allan Donald's autobiography.

Posted by: BooM on 01/06/2008

Firstly, India is a country who prays god Hanuman (Money avtaar). EVEN IF harbhajan said him "monkey" why did he take it as a racial abuse and not as a praise?
Secondy, If "monkey" is an racial abuse according to Symonds, then PETA should step ahead and charge him for being the actual racist against amimals!

Posted by: Kumar on 01/06/2008

Some of the comments on this page prove one thing and one thing only - Indians are the most and intolerant people in the world. That's why so many have to leave the own country to live in Australia. The comments here are also extremely racist against Australians.

Posted by: allcricketnews.com on 01/06/2008

The big class bully is being brought down, and is making a lot of noise. Looks like the Aussies cannot quite stomach the Indians changing the rules of the sledging game. It looks like the Aussie players believe the Indians have to follow a set of 'rules' that the Aussies are familiar with while sledging. Calling someone a monkey is not necessarily a racist comment,and as a matter of fact, most of the Australian team deserve to be called monkeys for their boorish on-field behaviour as do a few in the Indian team.
There also seems to be an alarming pattern in the way a majority of wrong decisions down under go against India. Hussey, Symonds and Ponting were all given multiple reprieves, while on the final day, both Ganguly and Dravid were given out unfairly. While the odd wrong decision here and there does even itself out, this was not the case here. If the match was in India, and the Aussies were at the receiving end, one wonders how the Aussie media and the ICC might have responded.

Posted by: ravikumar,jakarta on 01/06/2008

Better call off the series if the whole series is going to be played in this fashion.Australians playing their entire 14 11+ three umpires.Congrats to aussies.Only you can win in this pathetic way.

Posted by: trev on 01/06/2008

You guys in this forum just cant handle the fact that the Aussies are just so good.Indian cricketers are so girlish and week minded they can never dominate them. Im a Brit but i admire just how good they are and they are great sportsman .Indiana just dont understand the aussie
way.

Posted by: arun biligere on 01/06/2008

Anyways who is this mukul kesavan? Is he a Australian or an Indian..It doesn't matter though..Cricinfo should stop these people writing columns..I totally disagree with him..

Posted by: Chill Pill on 01/06/2008

I have read many of these comments.
Honestly, get a grip on life people.
Too many people are jumping down Kesavan's throat.
Do you read the papers? Is there more happening in the world than what seems to be consuming everyone?

Posted by: VIDHYADHAR on 01/06/2008

AUSTRALIANS ARE SORE LOOSERS IN THE GAME OF CRICKET. NO-ONE WILL CONSIDER THEM WORLD CHAMPS BY THE WAY THEY WON THE 2ND TEST.I THINK RICKY POINTING , SYMONDS, GILCHRIST AND CLARKE HAVE LEAST SPORTSMANSHIP IN THE CRICKETING WORLD.
SHAME ON AUSTRALIAN CRICKET
HARBHAJAN , INDIA IS WITH U TO FIGHT AGAINST DIRTY AUSSIES!!!!

Posted by: Raghu on 01/06/2008

I feel Symonds is monkey-ish. In my known family circle any body acting hyper, Intolerable are asked to stop monkey behavoir or so. Sincerely as an Indian I see no racism there. I didn't even know until all this hoopla that he is aborginal or something. Its his antics, his comments (about T20 celebrations, we have one sport as religion and feel good what his problem-jealousy).
Whatever with today's test realized once more there is no fairness its (no god made world, Just man made world) - the manipulator wins. And they writes history
How can umpiring mistakes be so once sided. We indians as in general are no smart ass as these aussies about hook or crook wining. Hook Crook is one reason I hate them. Look at how Ponting appealed catch of dhoni when later replays showed he didn't catch clean and they talk as if they are elite can do no wrong - supremcist something
I respect Hayden, Lee, Hussey - there is a reason. They "seem" fair-balanced, Others are just crooks. And they preach othe

Posted by: Ethan Hunt on 01/06/2008

Boy are you honest! But have you ever played against an "Auzzie" as they call themselves. The whole business of sledging can be attributed to three teams England, South Africa and Australia. It is a culture cultivated by them. And quite honestly, Ricky Ponting, Michael Slater, Andrew Symonds et al. are no fair men. It does not mean that the rest of the world take their example. Australia have had a real good track record in International cricket but that is no reason why they should command respect otherwise. Frankly, they are not the best ambassadors of the game. You really want a turn on it, go read Allan Donald's autobiography.

Posted by: blogger on 01/06/2008

why is everyone making a fuss of what bhajji said here? the australains are very famous for their comments but no one went to court. so why should bhajji be taken to court? this is so unfair.

Posted by: Scott on 01/06/2008

To all the Indian Supporters out there saying the Aussies are crying and having a sook - Who's the ones crying now?

If an Australian racially abused someone from Asia, then it would be World War III.

Why should we sweep it under the carpet? Believe me when I say that Racial Vilification was brought in not for our benifit thats for sure.

What Harbhajan did was wrong and should be punished accordingly.

Posted by: John DeCosta on 01/06/2008

Dont you think it's aussies tactics to target an important member of the opponent team(Harbhajan in this case). When people can accept Michael Clarks words for taking Ganguly's catch, why can't they believe Harbhajan's words for not making any racist comments? If aussies do it, it's all right, and if Indians do it it's a lie. Aussies may be a good team, but they are very bad rold models for the game. They want to win by any means possible. They crib like bitches.

Posted by: Rekha Kulkarni on 01/06/2008

Why dont you ban Mr. Mukul Kesavan from cricinfo for ever? He seems to be bribed by the Ozzie's left and right !!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: allcricketnews.com on 01/06/2008

The big class bully is being brought down, and is making a lot of noise. Looks like the Aussies cannot quite stomach the Indians changing the rules of the sledging game. It looks like the Aussie players believe the Indians have to follow a set of 'rules' that the Aussies are familiar with while sledging. Calling someone a monkey is not necessarily a racist comment,and as a matter of fact, most of the Australian team deserve to be called monkeys for their boorish on-field behaviour as do a few in the Indian team.
There also seems to be an alarming pattern in the way a majority of wrong decisions down under go against India. Hussey, Symonds and Ponting were all given multiple reprieves, while on the final day, both Ganguly and Dravid were given out unfairly. While the odd wrong decision here and there does even itself out, this was not the case here. If the match was in India, and the Aussies were at the receiving end, one wonders how the Aussie media and the ICC might have responded.

Posted by: itsgriffo on 01/06/2008

Much of the above commentary to to my mind confirms the outrageous hypocrisy of most cricket supporters. The Australians have for a long time been labeled the bad dog and, certainly, they are no saints. But most supporters seems to lose sight of the fact that just about every cricket team behaves abominably relative to the saintly standards expected by supporters. To suggest Australia, India, Pakistan or whichever team are sledgers/hypocrites/etc while the other team is innocent is ridiculous. I don't believe that cricketers' behaviour has degenerated to such an extent that they would falsely label a player for purposes of strategy, as Kesavan suggests. Harbhajan has been caught out because awareness has risen and the rules have been tightened. Let's hope the same applies to whomever racially abuses next, whatever the colour of either parties' skin!

Posted by: Harry on 01/06/2008

I think the "monkey" tag has to do with the white lip cream he puts on - anyone who puts that looks funny. However if the comments do have racist connotations then a ban for couple of games seems the right way to go and not the lifelong one ban recommened by the author.

Posted by: chris on 01/06/2008

damb you indian make any excuse possible... it must be a cultural thing because your cricket team does the exact same. every time they lose its someone elses fault, always the umpires. cricket is run by asians so how can you claim racism?? besides in australia india, pakistan and sir lanka are not cosidered to be asian but middle eastern or mediteranian. so your asian excuse doesnt work.
after the incidents in india during the one day series harbhajan would have known exactly what he was doing was wrong. india got away with it once and ponting wont let them do it again.
india is just as bad at sledging as australia or any other country. look at their games with pakistan!!!
make all the excuses that you like, your team isnt of the quality that you wish which they have proved time and time again.
support your hockey team, at least they are good lol

Posted by: madhuprakash on 01/06/2008

Dude, firstoff, I never understood how a monkey is referred to a particular race or racial discrimination. Leave all that for a moment.

How can you call indians esp harbhajan or sreesanth and others lack sporting spirit or they are racists after you have watched how aussies have gone beyond all this to appeal for Dravid's catch in the last innings of the 2nd test. Guys, how cleary they lacked that spirit when they went for that appeal!

and how can a player (be it captain) command(not even demand) an umpire for declaring OUT against the opposing team player. I am talking abt how Ponting almost forced Mark Benson to declare Ganguly out!

Last but not the least, "Is it not so strange for batsman begin the sledging part? think guys!

Posted by: Christopher Wynter on 01/06/2008

If Harbhajan hadn't touched Lee on the bottom in the first place, Symmonds wouudn't have said anything and Harbhajan wouldn't have said whatever he said.

What precipitated the whole incident has been overlooked.

Posted by: JM on 01/06/2008

Sure, racism should not be tolerated.

But abusing fathers and mothers and sisters is worse in the Indian context. Why should that be tolerated?

Every rule in the ICC book is for the whites. Calling someone a monkey is worth a life ban but abusing religion, father, mother, sister and everyone else as the Aussies do is honorable!

Well done ICC!!!!

Posted by: Raghu on 01/06/2008

Who are famous for sledge? Why? Why? Can't they just shutup and play. Why stretch the limits, As Indians we cannot speak polished - so are we more wrong for that weakness. However great "most" Aussies are as cricketers, sport spirit wise are sick. And they complain. Look at the appeals today, Yes India do appeal but I never seen them preach others. Look at how Sangakkara was got out, Look at Dravid. I curse somebody terrible in the Aussie, If indeed clark catch of Ganguly was untrue - i felt a guilt in clarks face - It wasn't clear and they way they were appealing none of the fielders could be trusted. Why the hell umpire was asking the fielder, If he is clear out, else third umpire and not out. For me that is fair, Especially after how the great symonds was played with 3-4 life(s). And this author asks get tough. I hope he would excuse the aussies for their sledging - gamesmanship - we un polished indians get banned. Wah!!

Posted by: UB on 01/06/2008

Bring on the microphones... Aussies will be the worst hit because of that. Their competitive advantage will be lost forever - their invincibility has as much to do with the mastery of sledging as it has to do with the skill and preparation for the game.

Posted by: Stupid on 01/06/2008

Many (i have seen have) written that "if he has called him monkey it does not matter because i certainly wouldn't have taken it to heart". This is the most stupid comment that you could post because it doesn't matter wheter YOU mind it or not. Cricket is a gentlemen's game and it has no room for Indian emotions and bollywood stuff.

Posted by: Aspi - Sydney on 01/06/2008

Since when is the word "Monkey" a racial abuse? In school it is very common for kids to call each other "Hippo", "Ape" , "Piegeon". These words never have been regarded as racist so why "Monkey".
Symonds has sledged many players & is now getting it back & cannot take it. The enquiry shd find out what led to the exchange & who started it. Reminds me of an earlier exchange involving Mc Grath & Sarwan. We all know what happened then & McGrath came out looking so foolish.
The only way to stop this nonsense is to ban sledging all together. Bet you the ICC does nothing & puts it in too hard basket.

Posted by: Paul on 01/06/2008

Bottom line in all this is that retaliation against sledging by using a racist remark is unacceptable in any form of sport.

What has gone on in the past may have been tolerated then but in this age of politically correct sport racism is not tolerated by any sporting authority.

Look at the last Sri Lanka tour of Australia and the outcome was there was no raising of racism issues between the two competitive teams.

So in the case of all the sportsman that are currently playing the game if they have a specific opinion to the character of the person they are competing against that is questionable keep it to themselves and play to the best of their abilities as the actual performance usually wipes out any non racist name calling.

Posted by: Amit on 01/06/2008

A great test match between just got over at the SCG, and I must say watching the game I am not surprised that Australian team reached a milestone of 16 consecutive test wins. This is "Largely" contributed to some poorest possible umpiring decisions specially from Steve Bucknor (who unfortunatley for India is regarded as one of the best umpires) some of the blunders such as giving Symonds not out when he was clearly out edging a ball to Ishant sharma, then Dravid was given out when the ball had clearly deflected to the keeper through his pads. These sort of umpiring blunders can cause any team a test match and no doubt Australia have reached this unique feat twice in 4 years. There is a lot of media hype over racism taunts from Harbhajan, but noone seems to care what ignited those comments if at all there were any. There is clearly a case of double standards from ICC where Australian players get away with biggest of scenes and other countries specially from sub continent are penalised.

Posted by: MachMan on 01/06/2008

Mukuk, You are a disgrace to the writing community and cricket in general. The least you could have done is wait till the facts came out. Noooooo but you couldn't wait could you? It was too juicy for your self righteous ego monging fingers to do the typing and press the "post" button. Shame on you mate. Having said that racism has no place in sport. But I truly think that paaji munda called Symonds a monkey in the "abhey bhandar chup bait" sense and nothing else. You don't think Harbhajan knows the N word? Perhaps Bhajji was complimenting him.. Bhandar.. oh great hanuman who has lifted mountains and slayed dragans kind of monkey. Ever thought about that?

Posted by: Short Memory on 01/06/2008

Nice balanced post. Keep up the good work. Many of the replies seem to be oversensitive about their own perceived slights, while dismissing the possibility that anything they say could be offensive to others. Racism of any kind from any individual to any other individual is wrong and must be stamped out of sport. If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. In Australia we call each other "boy" as a term of endearment, but to an African American the term with its connotations of slavery is extremely offensive. The onus is on the speaker to be aware of this and avoid it. After the undeniable racist taunts in Mumbai, calling any person of black skin a "monkey" is unequivocally a racist taunt. Maybe he did it, maybe he didn't. Regardless of his innocence or guilt, the act itself must be recognised as reprehensible. Nor can we punish the complainant if they are unable to prove their accusation. PS to hate all Australians is by definition to be a racist, no?

Posted by: Charanjit on 01/06/2008

I think you need to have better writers on cricinfo than Mukul Kesavan. He might be pretty good at writing fiction but you have to address this issue in the context of cricket.

Posted by: sun on 01/06/2008

I am convinced that Mukul is a looser. It's fine to punish Harbhajan if found guilty. But who is punishing Australian who do not know how to take things that they are good in throwing at others. Tit for tat is no excuse. But somebody has to set a standard to fix their derogatory remarks towards other. Mukul is just in a wrong side, always write something which is not important to the spirit of cricket. It's amazing Cricinfo is tolerating this stupidity.

Posted by: himanshu on 01/06/2008

I strongly contest views expressed in Mr. Kesvan's article. The point is how do you define racial abuse in a cricket match especially when there is a lot of banter on the cricket field between players. So if Harbhajan has called Symonds a moneky, how is he being a racist as opposed to McGrath calling a specific Srilankan player a 'black monkey', well that is definitely being racist. If Harbhajan is guilty then he should be punished but then the ICC should do a thorough investigation in the matter and all those players who in any match have abused a player in any way should be barred. Shouldn't the ICC look at the history of the Australian team and how they behave on the field? Let them pick up the footage of a few recent series between Australia and India, in which all current players have played and penalise all the offenders. If racist remarks have been made in the past then all instances of the abuse should be punished. Mr. Kesvan should also consider the context of the events.

Posted by: jaytara on 01/06/2008

Mr. Kesavan depends on Anglo-Saxons for his bread and butter so entirely understandable that he should make these sanctimonious comments. As for Symonds, he has obviously been set up by the Aussies as their front-office man of colour to be their "martyr" and unfortunately some of our Indian players have basically been entrapped in this web because of their big mouths. However, i am absolutely sure that if Harbhajan said something, and no one will know for sure except himself and Symonds exactly what he said,he was goaded into it by persistent sledging from the Aussies as a whole with Ponting,Hayden,Symonds himself, the goody-goody Gilly and the angelic looking Clarke being the leading practitioners of that not so gentle art.

Posted by: greg on 01/06/2008

i think a lot of the indian supportes here and the team itself need to get into the 21st century! racism in any form is simply unnaceptable. to say that monkey is not racist is a cop out. did harbi not notice the uproar in the recent one day series in india??? sure australia don't have the best record but they get crucified by the press here when they do and have subsequenty cleaned up thier act. if i called anyone a monkey here in aus i wounld be charged with racial vilification and brought before a judge, look around you people, racisim in all its forms is ugly, unnaceptable and causes countless wars and deaths around the world. i applaude ricky for making a stand.

Posted by: kaushik on 01/06/2008

Now that india has lost thnx mainly to poor umpiring decisions,senior players like kumble,dravid etc should pull out of the series and let players like raina,kaif, etc take their places in the side. This way they can boycott the way the last match was officiated and also allow future players get some experience and the sponsors cant do anything about it...that is the ideal way to boycott.

Posted by: Sunny on 01/06/2008

Mukul Kesavan: A poor article, lacking objectivity. If the umpires did not hear anything, who are you to presume Bhajji's guilt? Your presumption of his guilt does not reflect well on your reporting skills.

On a lighter note, the theme song for this SCG test should be 'With A Little Help from my Friends,' for Aus got plenty (I counted at least 8 dodgy decisions against India) from Bucknor and Benson. Symonds, who is of West Indian descent, can thank the West Indian umpire, Bucknor for 3 lives.

On a philosophical note, to triumph without honour is to win without glory. Roger Federer and Tiger Woods are winners who win AND win admiration for triumphing with honour. The Australian cricket team may (one day) aspire to join their ranks. They have fallen in the eyes of many for their cheap behaviour and tactics. India held their heads high and their honour is intact. On that score, Aus have really 'lost' in the broader sense - in the hearts and minds of the fans of the game.

Posted by: Jason on 01/06/2008

After seeing ponting appealing to the umpires even after the ball touched the ground really puts question marks on the integrity and honsty of this australian team. And ponting should be the last person that benson should use to make decisions.

Posted by: Tony on 01/06/2008

OH Whats the point in all this?? Its just one of those things where millions of people know what acutally went on but theres just nothing you can do about it. Pontings tactics have stooped low at times but my god, he really has gone lower than dirt this time. This all started when they sore losers got knocked out by india in the T20. If it had been Pak or SA or England etc to knock them out, they would have been the ones on pontings collection of voodoo dolls. It was 13 versus 11 on that field at the SCG. Australians are the most racist ppl on the planet. If you dont believe me, ask the Aboriginies. If anyone should go to court it should be MArk Benson. To see wether he's come into a lump sum of money recently. What happened about a section of the crowd calling Monty Panesar a "stupid indian"? Anything? I say let Ponting win. Because when they finally do come down and lose their No. 1 spot, ALL OF THIS will come back on them. remember; no such thing as No. 1 Forever

Posted by: raghu on 01/06/2008

If Harbhajan is not found guilty BCCI or Harbhajan should SUE the Aussie team for harrasment. Obviosuly Ponting did this to mentally shake up harbahajan.

Posted by: kaushik on 01/06/2008

Now that india has lost thnx mainly to poor umpiring decisions,senior players like kumble,dravid etc should pull out of the series and let players like raina,kaif, etc take their places in the side. This way they can boycott the way the last match was officiated and also allow future players get some experience and the sponsors cant do anything about it...that is the ideal way to boycott.

Posted by: Notacrybaby on 01/06/2008

You indian supporters are all so brave from the sidelines arent't you, you complain about McGrath from the past and similar, but not a few months ago indian supporters so gracefully act as monkeys in reference to Symonds, and Sreesanth who wasn't even part of the team abuses him from the sidelines. Don't talk about hypocrites. It's happened, it's ugly, EVERYONE is guilty, I can't even imagine what is said on the feild by all players, but don't get high and mighty, this is a different world to days gone by and you can't justify yourself by crying 'the aussies did it blah, blah years ago', if aussies are so bad be bloody better than them.

Posted by: KJ on 01/06/2008

I was of the view that Ponting is a great batsman....now I can confirm that he is an even greater liar and a cheat. As mentioned by a few people before me, Harbhajan was not the one who strated it. Getting back to someone I hate with a passion..ponting the idiot...what about appealing and pushing the umpires to give Ganguly out when he clearly knew that Ganguly was not out. how weak is Ponting when he tells the umpire "I think he is out" when he clearly has seen that the ball touched the ground before clarke caught it..and then the 'Looser' Gilchrist appeals when Dravid defends a ball outside off stump, with his bat behind his pad and nowhere close to the ball...the Aus cricket team shame on you !!!

Posted by: natzaw on 01/06/2008

by taking any measure( including technology help) must clear the dirty air which is no good the game

Posted by: anon on 01/06/2008

its just the aussies u guys have to barage on here evry team does it and u just dont hear about becoz the aussies dont complain much like all the other teams.

To complain about this and bring it public it must have been said and we will see wat happens tonight at the hearing.

Posted by: addy on 01/06/2008

to hell with you the writer of this article, who gave you the right to judge Bhajji ? I believe that you are one of those kind who still want to be a licker and a slave of those who ruled us. I am proud to be a Indian and support Bhajji i know he has not said what is so called rasist. So better get your self some sleep then think and then write. I wonder how can cricinfo let some one like him write though.

Posted by: Kanwarjeet on 01/06/2008

Why do I hear Mukul working as a servant in an Australian household - Je Sahib, aaya Sahib,,,,

Posted by: Sujith on 01/06/2008

I think the self deprecating 'indianness' of kesavan has got the better of him. He has disappointed this time around by missing the plot.
Cricket is a game which has it's roots in players who were gentlemen first and then anything else. No wonder we have umpires and not referees; who will show red card or send a player off.
The so called competitive spirit of games like football and rugby seem to have corrupted these founding principles of the game.
All these instances of Bhajji, Symmonds, McGrath, Jayasurya all are signs of rot setting into a game that many of us liked for it's sophistication and finesse. I don't think the time is too far when many of us will have 'Cricket RIP' in our heads.
In his effort to sound holier than thou or i need to sound fairer than fairer we have missed the point here.
I feel probably it is time for us to either reevaluate cricket the way it is now or find another sport that still values human dignity and appreciates spirit to win not being obsessed

Posted by: Rajesh on 01/06/2008

I wonder what kind of sportsmen the aussie are. A batsmen openly come in the press and says the he was given not out when he was out. I wonder What Ricky Ponting would have to say if any Indian batsmen had come and said the same in the press or the Umpire had come form the Sub continent. This Harbhajan incident is the lates in line of Aussie gamesmanship. After seeing the news that they have hired a top lawyer to support the match refree stregnthens this view.After seeing the last days Umpiring and the kind of doubtful decisions, the dice is heavily loaded against the Indians. Playing 11 aussie players are bad enough but 13 is difficult. But along with the 13 if U have to play the match refree, the TV umpire and the ICC it becomes impossible.

Posted by: Ben on 01/06/2008

I find it ridiculouus when someone has been reprimanded in there own country for racial taunts (monkey)then has the hide to repeat these racial remarks in australia and use the defence that "in india monkey is not a racial remark". surley after the first wrong doing, he should learn.

Posted by: Matt on 01/06/2008

It was refreshing to see an author look at both sides of the story instead of going down the monkey isn't offensive to Indians path. If the Indian players/cricket public are unaware that Symonds regards being called a monkey offensive they are not being honest it has been well and truly publicized.

I think Mukul Kesavan is being too harsh on Harbhajan when suggesting he should be rubbed out for good - if he is guilty. I think a 5 match suspension - the same as Lehman’s - would suffice.

I do not understand how so many people can be in denial that anything an Indian does can't be wrong. So far in this thread I have seen, Americans, Australians, Sth Africans and the British accused and abused seemingly in the interests of defending Harbhajan.

Fanon 7 hours, 22 minutes ago: That post is a disgrace and has no place being on a public board such as this.

Posted by: Calexico on 01/06/2008

As an Australian I hadn't yet realised that we are all racist cheats who are jealousy of India for some reason. If you maintain that the term 'monkey'has no racial connotations go ask one of your Fiji-Indian brothers how they feel about being called Jungle Monkeys by the Indigenous Fijians. Ignorance is no excuse. And can someone please find Mr Bucknor and Mr Benson and explain that they are never ever allowed back on a cricket ground. That was the worst umpiring I've ever seen - and that includes in junior cricket where the coaches used to umpire.

Posted by: Chris on 01/06/2008

Interesting.
I've read many of the comments here, many of which are racist, many of which miss the point.
It is always sad when people try to make excuses for those in the wrong. If Harbhajan did use the term 'monkey', he is guilty of racism and should be dealt with accordingly. There is no misinterpretation, or cultural difference on this point. Anyone with a knowledge of the context in which those taunts were made and their history should understand their connotations.
Many have pointed to double standards. They may indeed be right, maybe not, depends on which issue. The point is though, the treatment of others previously bears no relation to the current incident. If Harbhajan is found guilty, the punishment should fit the crime, regardless of how others have been treated previously.

Perhaps the most important point at this stage is that Harbhajan has not been proven guilty of anything. Until such time as he is, we should all reserve our judgement other than in general terms.

Posted by: Wicky on 01/06/2008

Well, another Aussie incident! First of all the world cricket must understand that Australians get way with anything in the modern cricket game and get it the way they want. If opposed it will be turmoil. Ricky Ponting and the Aussies have a very illustrious history of sledging and they are no rabbits at that. The problem is when they do something wrong the ICC and the match officials will defend them for example Slater and Venkat incident nothing happened to Slater. Why...?
Why does all the Umpiring errors go in Australias favor irrespective of the opponent? These are interesting questions to answer but in my point of view I don't think Harbhajan is wrong. Aussies should have thier fair share of the pie otherwise Australia will win most of the games not by competing but by doing 3rd class stuff on and off the field like this. Well Done Harbahjan

Posted by: Raj Balakrishnan on 01/06/2008

Australians have won, thanks to Benson and Bucknor. Clarke is a worthy successor to Ponting, he is as good a cheat if not better.

Posted by: Supratik on 01/06/2008

Looks like you have copped it this time, Mukul apart from a couple of jokers here who go by the name of Adam and Sunny or is 'joker' a racist taunt!
Its very important to know what Symonds kept saying to Harbhajan before the sardar lost his cool. Secondly while 'monkey' is a word not acceptable to the western world, so are expletives like 'c__t' and 'ba__rd'. Even words like dick and prick are not acceptable to us in the sub-continent. Shall we then put all these words in the unacceptable category? If yes half the Australian team will remain banned for life, if umpires and the referees don't come to their rescue, which is usually the case as numerous guys above have pointed out.
Heated exchanges happen and when such atrocious decisions are being doled out in favour of the Aussies, India will feel aggrieved, especially with a spineless BCCI sleeping over it.
Secondly, racism by whites against others has been there for centuries. Others now know how to give back, hence tough luck.

Posted by: john vane on 01/06/2008

I find it hard to understand some of the foregoing posts. For what it's worth Harbijian must be an unusually stupid young man if, after the one day series in India, he doesn't know that 'monkey' is a racial taunt to any black man and shame on those posters who deny that it was used in that way, particularly the person who put in the same post that 'it is not insulting and anyway he looks like a monkey'. You sir are a classic racist. Out of interest, for those who claim that Australia felt a need to upset Harbijain, apart from his remarkable first series just how effective has he been in one day and test cricket since against Australia? In addittion Lehman was banned and fined the maximum available at the time, he admitted he did it, and apologised and at no stage denied it. Not quite the same.
The umpiring mistakes are not Pontings problem just as the Ganguly not out in the First Test which no one has even mentioned - Kumble's fault.

Posted by: Rajesh on 01/06/2008

The ICC is run by the whites. They still think they rule the world. And in India we still have people like mukul who still think India is still ruled by the white man and pander to thier every wishes. It is time that the the Indian Media supports the Indian players like how the western media supports thier teams. The asussie media creates stories to put pressure on the opposition like Yuvaraj case last tes. ( Malcolm Conn ex). Most likely the aussie have done this to get Harbhajan out of the way for the remaining of the tests. Ricky Ponting is scared of facing harbhajan and feel this is the way of putting pressure on him aussie are sore losers, moaners and poor sports. They expect the opposition to play fair but they dont play fair. If the aussie were to be banned for using bad language, the entire team would be banned.Probably using the F word is acceptable. ICC should start using thier old name -IMPERIAL CRICKET CONFERENCE. Darren Lehman must be laughing his guts out.

Posted by: ANAND on 01/06/2008

Bhajji is a great man this is not a great mistake enen the umpires are on the aussies side ... even symonds had accpted tat ... Bhajju was to be warned not should banned ... remember he is a world class cricket player ..Pointing luck is ur side continue and symonds ur playing a great cricket but pls be honour in dismissal like indian team especially SACHIN AND SOURAV

Posted by: Raj Balakrishnan on 01/06/2008

The charge of racist slurs have been made against Harbhajan because Ponting is not comfortable playing him and wants him out of the series. India should have walked out of the test the moment these cooked-up charges were leveled against Harbhajan. The biased umpiring had made things even worse.

Posted by: raju on 01/06/2008

There was a comment about Gichrist being a gentleman. After his appeal against Dravid - where he was the best judge to see that the bat was at least 10 inches away and behind the pad, he cannot still be standing on that pedastal. Winning is the only thing important to Ausies (a good quality), but not by using such means and especially in teh Harbhajan-Symonds case, it seems that they are trying to avoid facing him.

Posted by: Rahul on 01/06/2008

I wish Indian players lodge complaints against the Australians from now on. It would be nice to see the "chatter box" Ponting getting banned for once. The Australian team has no rights to call anyone racist. Guess the author of this article has forgotten the in famous Daryl Lehmann incident, where he abused the Sri Lankans at an earshot from their dressing room. The fact that one player in the team is so very careless with his behavior shows how rotten the Australian team really must be.
Ponting has dug a grave for his own players, because now all teams will happily lodge complaints against them. Should be just a matter of time before the Australians will have 30 odd players banned.

Posted by: Deepak Bhakoo on 01/06/2008

In the Indian context, the Aussies abuse Michael Clarke countless times every day, by calling him by his nickname "Pup", which is derogatory in the Indian context, but OK with the Aussies. I wonder why is there so much fuss about the word "Monkey" in the Aussie context (whether its been used by Bhajji or the Aussies are just trying to trap him by falsely alleging so remains to be seen). In the Indian context, it is not as derogatory (if at all it is) as "Pup".

Posted by: Peter on 01/06/2008

I love the passion you guys exude. God, if we Australians took it as seriously as you lot, we'd wipe the floor with you on the field instead of just regularly beating you easily. All I will say is SCOREBOARD, 2 - nil, (and counting). Out of 1 billion people you can't even get eleven decent cricketers. Next time try sending your male side to play. You have 3 decent consistent cricketers; Kumble, Dravid and Tendulkar. Would anyone here honestly put money on the fact that Australia will NOT record a 17th consecutive test win.......beware, it's played in Perth where the ball actually bounces above your ankles.

Posted by: Sheyas Shah on 01/06/2008

As for the monkey chants in Wankhede, I do not think that those are entirely racial. Symonds is widely called a monkey in India, and that's because of his appearance on field. Racial abuse takes some awareness of the racial history of the blacks, which is not so widely known in India as to qualify the chants of a whole stand as racial abuse. I myself think Symonds looks like one of the Vaanar Sena (Monkey Army) seen in the illustrated children's Ramanayanas. Heck, even my mother calls me a monkey when I don't shave for months on end, and when I do, feels relieved that I finally look like a 'man's son'. That's not racist!
I won't back Harbhajan categorically. He's no saint and we all know that; and he may well have called Symonds a monkey. But Aussies are surely a bunch of cry-babies and hypocrites. They know how to work the rules well, and the methods are nothing but underhanded.

Posted by: George George on 01/06/2008

Ricky Ponting is a worse sore loser than Steve Waugh. The Aussies should stop chattering if they can't take a chat back. Remembering an incident where Shane warne sledged Makhaya Ntini calling him John Black to which the bowler, who was batting with an injured knee, responded "Minus the Black please". No one ever made a big deal out of tit. Then what is the big deal here? The Aussies while they play a tough game are the worst ambassodors for the game. Steve Bucknor and Mark Benson should be stood down at the end of this test. They were so below par!!
Indians should not feel bad about this loss, as the game can be won against an 11 not against a 13. At least an honourable draw has been taken away from them by the umpires!!!

Posted by: Matt on 01/06/2008

After reading a lot of the tirades informing one and all how racist everyone but Indians are it's quietly amusing to remember the two men most reviled and despised by Indian fans over the last 5 days, Bucknor and Symonds, are both black skinned. Think about it!

Fanon 7 hours, 22 minutes ago: That post is a disgrace and has no place being on a public board such as this.

Posted by: Suresh on 01/06/2008

today the sydney test result, the shame for the entire cricket nation because very poor umpiring,the aussie victory is not true champion side they are cheating to take victory like ricky ponting charcater is not good in the field he is also cheating for ganguly wicket. Ponting you know.. this is the gentlemen game .....

Posted by: Vinayak Khadye on 01/06/2008

Absolutely rubbish. At all cost Harbhajan should be defended. Australians play cricket to win at any cost. Their words cannot be trusted. Hypothetically even if Harbhajan called Symonds Monkey, he should be defended by Indian board. In the past match fixing scandal Australian board defended Warne and Waugh, so why not defend Harbhaja.

Posted by: Bis on 01/06/2008

A few points to make:

1) If Harbhajan apologised straight away after making the remark that should be taken into account and his punishment should be commuted.

2) Australians do have a long history of racial taunting but the fact is they now have a black player in their side so obviously they can't be as racist as before. That is a good thing and shows the benefits of multiculturalism - we all learn from having people of different ethnic backgrounds in our midst. There is undoubtedly a racist mentality in India in certain quarters against people with dark skins - note how Harbhajan would never call a white person a monkey but has no qualms about doing it to the only black person in the Australian side. Sorry that is not on.

3) The underlying problem (which I diagnosed in an earlier comment which this blogger censored) is that Harbhajan, like Sreesanth, talks too much. You can talk the talk when you can walk the walk - or else best leave your actions to do the talking.

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Posted by: Karthik on 01/06/2008

1st: Let the hearing take place, let what was said be made public and let Bhajji be punished if need be...but be 'banned forever'? Mukul is a white man's puppet for saying that.

2nd: I disagree with many people on this post as I think 'monkey' is racist and Bhajji should know that. He is no angel just youtube him and you can see some of his actions. The truth is though is that he is not as bad as Nel, Ponting, Prior and most of the Aussies its just that he is not WHITE.
3rd: Is Black c--t or black monkey less racist? Mukul did you call for McGrath and Lehman to go down forever!?!? No the Aussies wanted there racist taunts left on the field and Stump Mics turned down! Gibbs called the Pakistanis animals! you can see it on youtube!! How dare the Aussies be involved in such double standards! They intimidate to win and I genuiely believe that they hold sway over certain Umpires! Good god Mukul I can't believe you have a platform to spread such disgusting propoganda

Posted by: Shreyas Shah on 01/06/2008

As for Symonds' comments on the 20-20 win celebrations, obviously he doesn't know what cricket in India is all about. This just belies his cultural ignorance. I myself don't regard the win as much, but the Aussies are certainly arrogantly proud of their records. I admire The Australian public, in general, is much more knowledgeable of the game than the Indian, and appreciate good cricket, and the team itself could learn something from them; learn to appreciate the game for what it is than adding parameters to the game like who 'talks' better, in addition to who 'bowls, bats, fields' better. And I don't think Ponting would be above taking every opportunity of get Harbhajan 'out of the way'.

Posted by: krishna on 01/06/2008

Australian cricketers are like indian politicians, who can degrade themselves to any level for their own benifits...Their behavoiur and appeals during the second test is a clear inication for that... The Bajji incident is well planned effort by aus's to gain in second tests after struglling 2/3 days in the field

Posted by: Sanjeev Sharma on 01/06/2008

Mukul, I admired your comments, unfortunately, till now. How can you ignore that entire faculty of international cricket acuses aussies for sledging, taunting and making racial comments! Their arrogance, impunity and audacity is not only very well known but also acknowledged and endorsed by their criketers. And you are advocating for harbhajan's suspension!
These are double standards and biased views Mr Kesavan. Kindly rectify them or pull them out from this blog. Before you point fingers at Indian cricketers, you should rather delve into the slime that australians have pumped into this game. We can easily figure out on TV the constant muttering, sledging and taunts of aussies. Look at Ricky the great! I've never seen a captain as cocky and arrogant as he is. Aussie victory means nothing to me and most of the Indians. Its a victory for Benson and Bucknor. Even partially blind and deaf men can do better than them...

Posted by: Pakistani Raja on 01/06/2008

As expected, India is very well on their way to a 4-0 bashing, and the Paki fans are fully enjoying every moment of it.

Moreover, the 'salt to wounds' are the dubious umpiring decisions, so it’s like defeating them and ‘rubbing it in’.

Way to go Australia....... and Steve Buckner too ;)

Posted by: Smartypants on 01/06/2008

Indian players need a tutor who can teach them the subtleties of English language. Instead of calling someone a "monkey", but asking "why are u behaving LIKE a monkey" would not have been deemed as Racist. That way u are not refering to a person's appearance, but rather to his/her behaviour. Clever eh!! And to all the Aussies fans out there.. isn't it great to have 13 players on the field. Cheers mate!!

Posted by: Dave on 01/06/2008

Sore losers all of you!!!All good and well to say calling someone a monkey in India is not racist.I call my children little monkeys all the time in Australia but to call a black man a monkey that just proves someone is racist, uneducated and just plain stupid.
Darren Lehmann did make an unbelievably stupid comment a few years back and although it was directed at no one and accidently heard he was banned for 7 games. Bhaji deserves to be made an example of the same way Herschelle Gibbs was in Pakistan.

Posted by: sid on 01/06/2008

hey mukul .. might wanna read the article written by Peter English on cricinfo .. It would give u some insights on the how the games been played over the years! When you pass a judgment of who did wrong and what punishment he should get just make sure you got ur facts in place! Else along with being associated with the game in 'a non playing way' .. kindly also get associated with the game 'IN A NON WRITING WAY!'

Posted by: Ganesh on 01/06/2008

Australia is one of the most racists countries in the world. Just note what happened to the Muslims in Sydney at the beach, and what happened to Dr Haneef.

Ponting and lot are the worst hypocrites ever. They blame others for racists taunts, when they themselves have dished it out. They say they have Cricket Code of Conduct and that they follow it (Steve's big talk), yet you can see Ponting appealing for a catch though he had floored it. And what about Clarke's non-catch and Ponting sign to Benson that it was a catch. Hypocrites of the first order.
India does not need treat them with kid gloves, and Indian should stop berating our own players, as many of our journalists do, just because they have an inferiority complex when they stand next to their white colleagues.
Other than Gavaskar, none of the other commentators during this test really came out to bash the umpires. Shastri was his usual none self, and that epitome asinine comments, Harsha Bogle, made me cringe with shame.

Posted by: neeraj chauhan on 01/06/2008

With grief I say, todays test in sydney India vs Australia, was a disgrace on Crciket and all due to Australia's poor, unfair and corrupt attitude. The last day, especially, clearly indicated of a conspiracy by the Australians and the umpires against India in a mere motive of winning the test series and making a 16 consecutive test wins? I could not imagine Australiand could disgrace themselves to this level. Andrew Symonds batted at least three time and Michael Husssey twice, but thats not the atrocity that happened. Rahul Dravid was given caught behind shockingly, when his bat was no wear near the bat. Saurav Ganguly's catch was more than doubtful and Michael Clarke let the australian cricket dwon by even claiming that he caught it, R.P Singh was adjudged LBW when the ball was going dwon the leg. This is not a win for the Australians, this was the most pathetic display of cricket and umpiring that cost India the game.Indians showed a lot of character today and therefore are winners.

Posted by: krishna on 01/06/2008

Australian cricketers are like indian politicians, who can degrade themselves to any level for their own benifits...Their behavoiur and appeals during the second test is a clear inication for that... The Bajji incident is well planned effort by aus's to gain in second tests after struglling 2/3 days in the field

Posted by: wayne on 01/06/2008

Cannot believe the Indian people on here saying that monkey is not offensive in their country. Talk about missing the point totally. If its racist here then its a racist comment. If an aussie cricketer said something in your native tongue which was racist, it would be racist, doesnt mean it is in English. Deal with it, Harbajan should know better being a seasoned international cricketer. Face it, he talks the talk, he should walk the walk

Posted by: Arvind on 01/06/2008

None of us knows what happened in the middle, but I have to say I am not a fan of Symonds' behavior in the field. In fact barring a few exceptions, most Aussie cricketers appear to be very arrogant and insensitive people. Hopefully the cricket team does not represent the majority of Australian people.

Posted by: Anonymous on 01/06/2008

Every time an Australian accuses anyone of racism his words are seething with hypocrisy. They have been and are the worst offenders in the cricket world, players and crowds. Ample evidence has been provided on this by previous posts. I'm sure harbhajan in innocent. Also in the future i think few of the Indian players should wear hidden mikes in the next test so they are able to reveal the true nature of the aussies. Hypocrites, cry babies and bullies to the core.

Posted by: Peter on 01/06/2008

This has been another hard-fought India-Australia series and as an Australian I have been embarrassed by some on-field behaviour I have seen from my national team (and not for the first time).
However, what has been even more embarrassing is the justification of poor Indian behaviour using the logic that "the Australian's must have started it".
Some of the posts above contain rants seldom seen outside fanatical religion. If you were to believe the posts above - Australian's always sledge, Australian's are racist, Australia always cheat, the umpires and the ICC favour Australia because they are white (!) and most importantly no Indian player would ever, ever do anything in the least bit naughty unless they were forced into it by a nasty Australian.
It is time for Indian fans to realise that while Indian cricket may be a religion, the men who play it are not Gods and will not always be pure in their words and actions. If you believe any differently then you are very naive.

Posted by: Abrem Sakar on 01/06/2008

Firstly your whole premise is wrong. So what if Symonds was called a monkey? Monkey is NOT used in a racist manner in India. Kids call each other monkey when teasing. "Bholo, bhaloo, bandar" all = monkey.
Secondly, Symonds looks like a monkey, it is simple fact. The Indians have found a way to tease him and it really gets to him; so be it. Symonds simply can't tkae it and so the Aussies are claiming "racism" becuase of its emotiveness and subequent press it has conjured up.
Finally, and let us not forget, all the swaering the Aussies do on field and have done in the past. They're getting a bit of their own back and can't handle. Tough luck.
(In case you are wondering I am NOT Indian but an Aussie)

Posted by: T Dawg on 01/06/2008

I think that sledging with minor comments is okay but there should be no offensive language on thee field it is unnessecary but if Harbhajan did say Monkey look at the footage of the Mumbai crowd, that is racism and although australia dish it out they havent been proved to be racist
also and i mean no racism or discrimination here but the Indian team have done nothing but complain since they came to Australia like Symonds was out and Bucknors a dickhead but Sharma didnt need to hit tha ground and stomp his feet like an angry baby.

If Harbhajan said something racist, he should be banned for life fullstop

Posted by: Brown Man on 01/06/2008

as long as there are subservient worms like kesavan, the white man shall forever taunt us.

Posted by: MadanBanda on 01/06/2008

Who is Mukul Kesavan to suggest that if found guilty, Harbhajan should be "preferably" banned forever? Is he the one who has written the ICC code of conduct for such issues? I believe that Bhajji, if PROVED guilty should pay the penalty as laid out by the ICC. Having said that, no stone should be left unturned in going after racist comments uttered by Australians themselves.
Secondly, Kesavan says "If he clears him, there’s a real chance that on-field chat will be systematically monitored in the future". I say why shouldn't it be monitored even otherwise. It would expose all the dirty and vulgar talk (conveniently described as sledging) by the Aussies.

Posted by: Jay on 01/06/2008

I think these Aussies aren't satisfied with winning game after game. Now their hypocrisy has taken a new turn by 'framing' Harbhajan. I think this is Ponting's plan as Bhajji has already scalpled him more than one time. Aussies are the biggest racists in the cricketing world and everyone knows it. According to me whatever is said on the field remains there and shouldn't be made public. If Harbhajan called Symonds a 'monkey' then its not a racist taunt. The Aussies are being jackasses and this is even childhish compared to the jelly bean incident in England. I am sick and tired of these Aussie cricketers' way of treating other teams when they have been achieving everything in their favor.

Posted by: sam on 01/06/2008

india are the cry babies,is it the umpires fault you can never win a series in australia

Posted by: Greg on 01/06/2008

What seems to escape most posters is that it does not matter if the person making the racial slur does not think it is racist in nature, it is whether or not the person at the end of the abuse thinks it is.

Indians may not think calling a black person a monkey racist, but everybody else does and that is what counts.

Posted by: Raghu Menon on 01/06/2008

I am sad to say that your post lacks the basics of a good journalism. It does not give a balanced view of the situation. Considering Bhajji has denied all allegations, and the on field umpires have also not corroborated with Ponting’s complaints, how can you apportion blame on Bhajji, at least that’s how you article comes across. You do not present a balance view in your article by arguing the case for and against Bhajji.
(1) If for argument sake we assume Bhajji said something to Symonds – but what instigated it? Knowing Symonds it is hard to believe he is such an innocent party and have not started all this. All this happened while Bhajji was batting fluently and in between his innings he thought “Oh! I have not racially abused Symonds till now – let me go and do it”
(2) On the other hand if we find Bhajji is totally innocent and Ponting and Co has made false allegations - what then? Will it then open doors for filing a case against Ponting and Co for making false allegations?

Posted by: venkie on 01/06/2008

See the way the things happened. It looked even umpires were suitably bribed by aussies. Aussies are lame and insane that everyone knows. Symonds uttered something about Bajji's performance on that particular innings repeatedly and Bajji need to clarify that to him..hence it was made a complaint on racisim account by Ponting ?? When this aussies gonna learn professionalism ?? Are they Aussies or Pussies ?? If Aussies are scared of facing Bajji, there are lot of ways to defend...why this stupidness ? IMO, Symonds need to be banned if Bajji is punished...I would dare to call Symonds as "Donkey Mouth" in Perth if he plays there..!!!

Posted by: John on 01/06/2008

The problem with people and cricketers from the continent is that they want to play in the big league but don't or can't understand that it's a furnace and only the strong survive.That wouldn't be a problem if they didn't give as good as they got then tried to plead dumb/racism as a defence.

Posted by: Muhammad AMan on 01/06/2008

I dont know what the problem is with these aussies and english. Why do always they object on on field chats? They themselves can do what they want. I can remember the words which WASIM said, "Cricket is ruled bye the Whites." they dont know sportsmanship.

Posted by: Prasanth on 01/06/2008

No question of punishment after todays match since the people in u r anvil should be Micheal Clark and Ricky Ponting...along with the whole of the aus cric team except johnson and gilcrist...who lacks ethics and sportsman spirit along side with the old man steve buckner(who should retire now as you see him panic while the not out catch of Dhoni went to the third umpire... God Knows does their ego or fear to lose jobs ,plays here since they are not even ready to check with the third umpire and the video reply with the decisions in such a sensitive series. Also the new stars like Micheal Clark should not expect scene like this, should be punished along with Ponting, who is experienced should be a role model like we have Lara and Tendulkaer even Ganguly went off silent ...Gavasker pointed out Micheal Clark's behaviour with a genuine appeal yesterday should also be noted here....

Posted by: Denzil Rodrigues on 01/06/2008

Hello Mr. Mukul Kesavan,
Just a quick check, have you applied for residency in Australia? Let me tell you, you sound like one of them already, always finding fault with others and glossing over their own mistakes and incompetencies. If you continue in this fashion you should be a true Aussie by the time the next Indian tour happens. All the best.

Posted by: Amol on 01/06/2008

Mr. Kesavan, You suggest the sternest punishment for Harbhajan if he is found guilty. I don't agree with you there, but that is not what I dislike about your article. What I hate the most is that you suggest no punishment for Ponting and co. if their claim in this matter turns out to be untrue.
All you say in that scenario is that international cricket will be in trouble.

Why the double standards Mr. Kesavan? How about calling for a 4 match ban on Ponting if he is guilty of misusing ICC laws to intimidate opponents?

Posted by: K.Hari Bhaskar on 01/06/2008

Australia may have won the Sydney test but its a shame the way they play their cricket.Unsportmanley behaviour,shameful banter and cheating when required and they call themselves world champions!I do not support racism, but Aussies complaining,i think its a joke!!

Posted by: Out of here Kesavan!!!! on 01/06/2008

I think Mr.Kesavan better buy a ticket to Australia soon and seeing his attitude towards the Aussies I think he'd be more popular there.

Posted by: MadanBanda on 01/06/2008

Who is Mukul Kesavan to suggest that if found guilty, Harbhajan should be "preferably" banned forever? Is he the one who has written the ICC code of conduct for such issues? I believe that Bhajji, if PROVED guilty should pay the penalty as laid out by the ICC. Having said that, no stone should be left unturned in going after racist comments uttered by Australians themselves.
Secondly, Kesavan says "If he clears him, there’s a real chance that on-field chat will be systematically monitored in the future". I say why shouldn't it be monitored even otherwise. It would expose all the dirty and vulgar talk (conveniently described as sledging) by the Aussies.

Posted by: rabi on 01/06/2008

the point is that...it takes 2 hands to clap...if the aussies want to indulge in sledging(which they have every well justified) in an gentleman's game then they should sledge others as much as they can take sledging

Posted by: venk on 01/06/2008

Hi,

I think mukul kesavan has bad experience in india and do not like the indian cricket team. Indians by birth are ethical and have a well built family orientation and have been suppressed by others till the beginning of this era includling people like Mukul who criticize their own brotherhoods not looking at both the versions. He talks as if he was there in the middle knowing exactly what has transpired. Indians Now the modern 21st century indians are brave, bold, challenging and exciting in which ever field they are be cricket or computers. So they give back when ever someone tries to suppress or tries to retard them.. I am no racist nor for racism but criticizing the indian cricket team and esp. harbajan solely is not fair. IF the word " F__k" used by ausssie cricketers is a slang and sledge the " Monkey " word by any indian standards is not at all discriminatory... Mukul should understand that the "English " is not the first language of the indians....

Posted by: typical on 01/06/2008

I have read these replies and what a load of bitter racist lot you really are. for a start to those who claim lehmann didn't get penalized in 2003 he lost quite a few matches in the Australian summer series and a no of w/c games. he least had the courage to admit and take responsibility for his actions and apologized.

but I seem to remember Pakistani latiff racially abusing Gilchrist, get reported and like a sneakily school boy denies, by unintelligible tape so let off.
Gibbs calls pak supp bloody monkeys and guess what he gets penalized for RACIAL ABUSE imagine that, now you state being called a monkey is not racist when one of yours do it. DOUBLE STANDARDS.
racism is not confined to color of skin read the laws of the game you will find it includes more than color. India started the racial abuse in odi had the nerve to deny until proven with photo. where is the integrity there. racism is racism take responsibility for your own actions here.

Posted by: Bala on 01/06/2008

Mukul, if you can only write half baked , nonsensical, self degrading ( self meaning one's own country) articles like this, for heaven's sake please stop writing

Posted by: Chooka on 01/06/2008

Funny to read these comments by people who claim that whats going on is a result of the Aussies being sore losers, last time I looked the AUSSIES won the test match take a 2 to NOTHING lead in the series, RETAIN the Border/Gavaskar trophy and now head off to Perth to make the series 3 to NOTHING. If you cant deal with what the scoreboard says then leave your details and i'll send you a box of tissues to dry your tears!

Posted by: skrishnan on 01/06/2008

when Indian appeal they are fined for excessive appealing. when they do the same umpire goes by their verdict. We lost the match.why because of bad and favorable umpiring towards Australia. Not only for this series and against India. It all happens with all countries. All countries especially Asia should refuse to play with Australia either at Australia or in our country. then only International Cricket council will take action.

Posted by: Fly on 01/06/2008

I have played cricket all my life in Australia. I have been called white, black, can't bat, can't bowl its in the mind of the player and the players to play cricket. Not saying that personal abuse does not happen but sledging has been happening since the day it was born. What you say about Australia is true! in the case of sledging. It is not personal nor has it ever been. Remember what happened in the 1970-80's when Australia toured India and Pakistan the umpires and the playing surface was against the touring sides whether that be Aust, NZ or England and the home side won. There was a public agreement before this tour between Aust & India that there would be no racial taunts on or off the field including spectators. Cricket is the game of gentlemen and that is the way it should be played. So lets back to basics of cricket and enjoy the game, both spectators and players alike. Umpiring decisions will always be that, decisions, right or wrong.

Posted by: kaushiq on 01/06/2008

Australia have won, they are certainly happy but i dont think they are satisfied. So many mistakes and so many silly decisions have doomed teh game. i odnt think Buknor made so many mistakes in his life that he did in this match. Australia are a power house and they might be trying to use this to their favour. they do things that are not supose to be done and im sorry to say that the image Waugh created is being destroyed by Ponting. Steave was fare and square ( i presume)and like him Ponting also wants to win but he will do anythign to do that. The appeal Gilchrist made was a shocker. unless i saw it today i wouldnt have believed that gilchrist could do that. I am a die hard fan of australia but im not liking whats happening. its ruining the game. to me media is to be blame also. the way they create the tension, this series became very prestigious and everybody wants to win. this became a issue of ego, fair competiveness is giong out of the game. its a shame. it truely is a shame.

Posted by: Jon on 01/06/2008

A lot of this racism stuff happens in football. Samuel Eto'o was subjected to monkey-chants, and he spoke out a lot against the removal of racism from football. It is sad to see that it is being seen increasingly in cricket, which was previously considered a gentleman's game.

Posted by: Buttsy on 01/06/2008

Umm, just wondering from the tone of all the comments above... who won the test? Who has now won 16 in a row? Thank goodness the Australians have India in the next two tests so that the record can be broken!

Posted by: Subbaraman on 01/06/2008

Thanks to people support from people like Mukul Aussies will continue to show their wretched and racist behaviour.Keep doing the good work Mr Mukul

Posted by: Phil on 01/06/2008

I haven't read the comments yet, but I will now. In the meantime, I would like to offer the author of this article congratulations on one of the more mature articles written on this particular subject.

Posted by: typical on 01/06/2008

venkie, what a small bitter loser you really are. you do your people an injustice here. you want respect then you have to earn respect and quite frankly too many racist remarks for anyone to have earnt respect here, you should be ashamed of yourselves you do you country a disservice, need to get that colonial thinking out of your system, you have had your freedom since 1947 and only now have an ecconomy to sustain yourselves. what have you been doing for the past 60 years time to grow up and get over it. sri lankan cricketers have far more grace than the indians with exception of the little master. they are a pleasure to watch and I am glad the indians lost this match for the spite and bitterness of their supporters.

Posted by: Vijay Belapurkar on 01/06/2008

Aussie are poor and disgraceful losers. Win at all costs is the motto that is ingrained in their psyche.To me it appears to be a ploy to unsettle Indians and especially Ponting's tormentor Bhajji. Bhajji is no saint but not stupid enough to react unless under gravely provoked.Aussies are the master sledgers but think that they have the right to define the limits. If cricket to survive these incidences, there should be total ban on any form of sledging racial or otherwise and may be technology in terms of on-stump microphones should be used to catch the culprits.
Vijay Belapurkar
Sydney

Posted by: Ghost of Jardine on 01/06/2008

India Australia clashes tend to bring out the worst of both cultures. Beyond the minutiae and legalisms of l’affaire Bhajji, this bigger picture stands out.

The typical Indian cricket fan is loud, petulant, fickle and mindlessly jingoistic, as the horrendous crowd disruption in losing matches (e.g. WC semifinal at Eden Gardens) will testify. The repeated bottle throwing and heckling during the West Indies series happened with India in comfortable positions, suggesting nothing but cavalier racism. Look at the juvenile sniping between Indians and Pakistanis all over YouTube. The saving grace is that, with a few exceptions like Sreesanth and Bhajji, the Indian team consists of much better human beings than their average fan.

How can Aussies take parochial satisfaction in purely cricketing dominance when some of their icons like Warne and McGrath come across as graceless boors and lowlifes, and the national team is led by a guy with the personality and morals of a street thug? Australian cricket gives free expression to an in-your-face, winning-is-everything jock culture that takes locker room etiquette as the standard for public behaviour. The unreflective hypocrisy makes it worse. No reasonable person can find much difference between calling an opponent a monkey or calling his mother a whore, and those who are whining about Symonds’ treatment – himself an ugly, overbearing jerk in the same league as Andre Nel – will do well to remember that the loquacious skinhead Lehman was given a hero’s sendoff on his retirement, and Greg underarm Chappell remained an icon. Spare me the whiny sanctimony.

Posted by: Kunal on 01/06/2008

I think MOM of today's match should have been shared between Bucknor, Benson and the 3rd umpire. I also think Ponting is trying his best to remove bhajji from the rest of the matches, since punter is bhajji's bunny, and is scared to admitt that he can't read bhajji. I think this must be the case since only Ponting, Hayden and bucknor's blue-eyed boy Symmo, and NOT the umpires heard what Bhajji said.

Posted by: cheers on 01/06/2008

Ok,It is NOT yet proved that he said something, if he did then yes he should be punished but till then barking dogs must stop. To me it looks like if Australian team says derogatory - its called just a game but if Indians reply to them it will be 'racism'. I think this time OZzies have found their match.
BTW anyone can win a match when you play when you have umpires on your side.. Sportsmanship goes to hell.Hypocrite Mukul.

Posted by: Dan on 01/06/2008

I'm an Australian and I just want to point out that this issue has flared up out of all proportion mostly because of White Australia's guilt over the treatmeant of its indigenous people throughout history. It's politically incorrect in the extreme to say a bad word about the Aborignal people here, almost as if this will help atone for centuries of mistreatment. Unfortunately Harbhajan got caught in the middle of it, and he surely doesn't understand the delicate politics of racial issues in this country. I hope for his sake he is simply given instructions to keep his mouth shut rather than banned.

Posted by: Ashwin on 01/06/2008

OK couple of points here - everyone on this board who refers to "Australians" and complains about their behavior is a racist by ICC definition. But then again - that does not make it untrue. Now if I called Ponting an Aussie Cheat - that would be racism - but not necessarily untrue.

Also, whether a phrase is "racist" is to be read from the intent. If Bhajji's intent by using any phrase was to insult Symond's geneology, he would be racist. If his intent was just to return some compliments from Symonds - that would not be racism. The same with the crowd incident - I do believe the crowd targeted Symonds for special attention - but it was not aimed at Symonds's family tree.

ICC needs to get mature about defining truly what racism is. Wonder how anyone in a seat of judgement can determine what is fair given such a slack definition from ICC.

Posted by: Karthik on 01/06/2008

To Typical:
I dont think Lehman and Gibbs were not punished, I said that no South African or Australian called for life time bans. (also Gibbs called them bloody animals which you can check on youtube) I agree though 'monkey' is a racist term and many Indians are disgracefully racist towards black people which is something that we need to deal with!!!!

Posted by: Fredrick on 01/06/2008

I looked at this site to have a bit of a read and.......difficult to belief that some of what is said is not pure comedy.You can't be serious with what you say-And will Symonds come to realise how offensive his 'black-face' on-field persona is. Athletically gifted he may be but black Americans in particular would look upon him with great bewilderment. Is this guy taking the mickey or what? He seems more caricature, a cross between sideshow Bob and Al Jolson, on steroids-who wrote this crap-- and yes Im sure if you could do eye to eye wuth Symonds you''d say it- gutless wonder
and yes monkey is ok now - thanks for that I'll keep that in mind- the indian fan's book of acceptable behaviour
See the way the things happened. It looked even umpires were suitably bribed by aussies. Aussies are lame and insane that everyone knows.- well this takes the cake...well we won't generalise now will we??? bribery - oh yes last 16 test wins have been achieved with bribes , not runs, wickets etc

Posted by: Vishwas on 01/06/2008

It is very unfortunate to see an Indian writer taking the side of those silly double standard Aussies who know nothing but winning hook or crook. What Mukul Kesavan has blogged leaves a bad taste in the mouth. He has to remember that when Indians are one of the most racially abused people in the world, how can they do the same to others, especially Aussies who try to abuse each and everyone at the drop of the hat. Mukul Kesavan seem to be hypnotized by the Aussies. Else how can he let down our own countrymen who have a great history of being nice to others. He must feel ashamed about making such comments. Please Mukul, if you can't praise the Indians, atleast do not deride them. Infact, the aussies must be charged for having levelled stupid and baseless allegations against Indians. Ponting has to be banned for an year or two if Bhajji is proved innocent, which he is.

Posted by: George George on 01/06/2008

In reply to Sam's posting...Mate, one can certainly win against a playing 11 but certainly not against 13 or 14 if the third umpire can be counted. As far Mukul Kesavan goes, mate it is 2008 now not pre-1947, please do not stoop like this!!

Posted by: Teece on 01/06/2008

Dario- 'Indians in Harris Park and Westmead (Sydney's West) have been routinely targeted.'
The ghettos of Westmead! So, do you work for Microsoft or IBM? Had trouble in the office water cooler queue?
Posters' arguments are following a set of patterns.
1. Mukul is part of a clandestine Australian propaganda machine; he dared to suggest an Indian player should be held to international cricket standards.
2. Any team touring Australia is pummelled by a firestorm of on-field expletives worse than being trapped in a basement with Billy Connolly after a night on the scotch. And how craftily the Aussies disguise the abuse! 'Good areas Hoggy!' or 'Down Haydos!' are coded insults designed to break down the Indians.
3. Calling someone 'monkey' in India, although comparing them to a primate based on the physical attributes of their race, isn't racist. Funny how Ponting never gets called Monkey. Or any English players. But the West Indian team did. So did Symonds.

Posted by: R SATHYAMURTHY on 01/06/2008

The answer to this is very simple. Ban sledging. Then we will see how many matches Aussies win with their on field skills. Ban all types of talks and violations of that rule to be punished with life bans. Why this Symonds guy always crying? We are from the land of the Mahatma, where is the Mahatma in Australia?

Posted by: Iron-pyrites Mike on 01/06/2008

There has been unacceptable behaviour from sections of the Australian public and members of the Australian cricket team in the past. What is interesting though, is the response to that behaviour, as it apparently differs greatly to the official and unofficial response to similar behaviour in India and now in Australia. Having watched the recent one day series in India, the current test series and the associated controversies, I was surprised to read reports that the Secretary of the BCCI, police and ground officials were effectively banding together to create the impression that the victim was lying and nothing ever occurred- even after match referee's reports, witness statements, photos, ICC reports and the anti- racism code being flashed on the scoreboard, provided ample evidence to the contrary during the Indian incidents. It seems that the Indian team may be adopting a similar tactic now. Surely a more responsible approach would have been to, as Symonds himself wished at the time of the original incident, quietly address the matter, weed the perpetrators out, and resume a good game/series. What has happened instead is the ramping up of racially charged headlines, articles and opinions, as can even now be seen with even a cursory scanning of news articles and comments, which reached a low point in India in the disgusting and embarrassing images of Indian supporters as arch racists doing the rounds of the world's media and have now continued onto the field with Singh being reported and charged in the current series. I don't for a moment believe that the actions of these people in any way reflect the majority view of Indian society, but as we all know, the actions of a few can stain the reputation of everyone. So I wonder, is it really helpful to take the schoolyard 'They did it first.' defense, without referring to the courage the Australians are showing in actually addressing the issue both in professional sporting ranks and in terms of crowd behaviour? Certainly, the recent Australian report into racism in sport highlights some disturbing and embarrassing realities, but they should be applauded for doing something other than attacking the victim, denying the obvious, or resorting to childish justifications. So I respectfully ask, when will we see a similar report from India, or indeed some sign that this problem is being taken seriously? My guess is not very soon, but in the meantime, shouldn't we be trying to bridge the widening divide between two great sporting nations, rather than provide more ammunition to those who would rather appeal to our lowest instincts than our highest? Blame the racist aussie team, the racist umpires, the racist crowd, the racist weather, the racist pitch etc., but perhaps, when you’ve run out of excuses and the decision is handed down by the ICC, favouring either party, you’ll have the integrity to look upon the actions of those you defend with a little more honesty and objectivity.

Posted by: scott on 01/06/2008

Re: 'Typical' comments.

Thank goodness someone has some sense and is not so blinded by bias as to overlook racism!

With all the incidents India has been involved in recently, it's time their supporters considered their own teams behaviour rather than Australia's!

I suppose Indian fans believe they are being strong and forging a nations identity? As someone said earlier in this thread, an eye for an eye makes the world go blind!

Posted by: Aaron on 01/06/2008

What's the big deal about calling someone a monkey? Get over it. I call my mixed-race niece a monkey all the time. She doesn't get offended. They are all grown men and the aussies are very quick to dish it out. They have to be prepared to take it as well.

Posted by: CLARKEY FAN on 01/06/2008

omg callin symo a monkey is so offensive, like he had to put up with it wen he went to india n now he gets it here..leave the poor guy alone. harbhajan is just sayin stuff coz his teams losin...like seriously he should be suspended!

Posted by: Ashwin on 01/06/2008

PS: Minutes of the Hearing
Match Referee: Did you hear anything?
Benson and Bucknor: No We did not
Kumble: See thats what we've been complaining about!!

Posted by: Karthik Bangalore India on 01/06/2008

This is why this Australian team can never match the spirit and class of the WINDIES of the 80s. You can win a game and create records but the fans will never get a joy there is always a feeling of emptiness.

Karthik.

Posted by: PKD on 01/06/2008

As usual Kesavan is in knee-jerk reaction mode. In last 15 years Australians mastered and perfected the art of sledging. Constant provocation, back-taking behind the wicket (Gilchrist) - these are part of the cricket when playing against Australia. Since when the sledging, provocation became part of "spirit of cricket"? It's very apparent that the whole conversation was initiated by Symonds while Harbhajan was batting. What did Symonds say? Nice words? Congratulated Harbhajan? Come on! Don't act like a dumb guy! People who follow cricket in regular basis know how Australian players provoke opponent batsmen to death. Australian crowds in stadiums are not nice guys either. South Africa's Makhaya Ntini was a victim of racism abuse and chants in 2005. England's Monty Panesar was similar kind of abuse in 2006. From all these incidents, I got a pretty good idea about the country of Australia - a self-righteous racist nation where players and their fans think that they can do nothing wrong.

Posted by: Chooka on 01/06/2008

Good one skrishnan .. i didnt see a wicket against an umpires name in the statistics when i was reading the result of the Sydney test match when India couldnt bat through less than 2 sessions of cricket. Perhaps if some teams prepared as well as they talked they might at least have some sort of chance of playing consistent cricket instead of consistently looking for excuses!

Posted by: Rishikesh on 01/06/2008

This is Mr Kesavan mad?? How can you have a headline like..."punish severly if found guilty"
the first part of the article paints a picture as if Bajji is guilty...wat proof does Mr Kesavan have??

Posted by: Raghu Menon on 01/06/2008


To Chhoka, Typical and the rest of the same ilk – Yes! the scoreboard says Aussies won this test match – but frankly would that have been possible without the help from other non playing members of your team – the UMPIRES - all 3 of them. They are the guys who won this match for you and they deserve to be in the annals of SCG’s hall of fame (SHAME). Also they should be decorated with an Aussie medal of honour from your country. Without them you would have LOST this match. They are your true heroes.

Posted by: m1a1 on 01/06/2008

My prediction for the next test. Aussies win- Indians blame racist pitch, umpires, weather, food etc., while BCCI maintains that 'Monkey', when said to non whites is actually Hindu for 'What a lovely chap'.

Posted by: Arjun P. on 01/06/2008

Wow!! We have a real debate on our hands here, and judging by the comments it seems that we have touched a real raw nerve. Well for starters, to both our indian and australian fans, the issue we are talking about is, did Harbajhan abuse Andrew Symonds?? Have any of you been keeping up with the facts?? The umpires in their interview are saying neither have heard it. The stumps mic hav not picked up the word monkey either. Channel Nine on their Cricket show confirmed they actually went back to that period of the game and turned up the mic to listen for that word "Monkey".. it wasnt uttered. SO the inquiry is going ahead solely on the Australian team's complaint and their player's evidence. Now how honest are the Aussies..? Ricky Ponting claiming a catch which he obviously dropped..hmmm.What was said? Was it a racial taunt?? what was said prior and after that if it was actually said. and of course im still luving this test series,INDIA VS BUCKNOR/BENSON. Long live neutral umpires

Posted by: bronte on 01/06/2008

From Australia, I would have liked to see Ponting issue a statement upholding the principle on which the case against Harbhajan was lodged, but now withdraw the complaint in the interests of good relations between the teams and both countries.
Cricket's a great game, but its saddest by-product is the bad feeling its often arouses between nationalities.

That said, I think it's specious to claim that - after all the fuss and television images from Mumbai during the recent ODIs - that Harbhajan could have innocently used the 'monkey' word' (if he used it) in this context. It can only have been taken as a racial taunt, and the generalized counter-charges here about past Australian attitudes and incidents are a smokescreen.

Racism, sadly, is so often an ingrained human instinct, and it can only be dealt with case by case.

Having lived and worked in India (even played a bit of cricket there) its sad to see the relations between these two fine teams deteriorate.

Posted by: jez on 01/06/2008

You may remember Zinane's response to the sledging from Materazzi in the football world cup. The mind game and pressure is an important facet of test cricket. I enjoy watching the testing. This includes the appealing- the umpires need to have the skill to resist. However derogatory sledging (your mother wears army boots),and racism by intent needs to be exited from the game. Those that defend the present by saying the past sets the precedent are wrong. Batsmen rarely walk and the gentlemanly image of competitive sport is partly myth. Some players need to be reprimanded if proven at fault. The microphones on at all times would speak volumes.

Posted by: Mick on 01/06/2008

It seems that there may or may not be a case of racism here, or, there may or may not be a case of cultural insensitivity here ( i.e. not realising that 'monkey' is not a racist term in India ).
It seems that the only way to put a definitive stop to all these problems is to ban all talk on the field except for that which is essential ( i.e. team instructions and appeals ).

Posted by: josh on 01/06/2008

its not the word "Monkey" thats racist!...its he Venom with which the person ( Indian crowds and H.Singh) meant to say it with....you don't have to be white to e Racist...why can't H.Singh use the same venomous verbal outburst against a Pakistani or Sri lankan Player......I'm sure the results would be devastating!!!!!!

Posted by: Teece on 01/06/2008

By the way, I wanted India to at least hold on for a draw in this test and wouldn't have minded if they sprung an upset in the series.
I also felt a little uneasy at some of Ponting's curmudgenly antics when things didn't go his way (which wasn't often) and even some unattractive exhibitions by Symonds himself.
I cheered when Tendulker got his hundred and willed Dravid to break his shackles. My heart broke for young Sharma.
None of that changes anything. Racism is not a resort, no matter what it's in reply to or what frustrations have been endured in the lead up.
Tony Greig said on Nine that even if Harbhajan called Symonds a 'monkey,' the Australians are whingers and should remember the abuse they've previously meted out to Asian cricketers. Sunil Gavaskar joined in the chorus.
This idea of redressing an imbalance of racism is fine, but always seems to involve someone like Gavaskar being prepared to sacrifice the dignity of someone like Symonds. He doesn't deserve it.

Posted by: chooka on 01/06/2008

Hey BUTTSY .. could you please not bring common sense into this thread for the chance you may confuse some people. However i am enjoying your work

Posted by: Raghu Menon on 01/06/2008

To Chhoka, Typical and the rest of the same ilk – Yes! the scoreboard says Aussies won this test match – but frankly would that have been possible without the help from other non playing members of your team – the UMPIRES - all 3 of them. They are the guys who won this match for you and they deserve to be in the annals of SCG’s hall of fame (SHAME). Also they should be decorated with an Aussie medal of honour from your country. Without them you would have LOST this match. They are your true heroes.

Posted by: Monkeys and Cows on 01/06/2008

I wonder what would have happened if it was a women's cricket.
Imagine what would happen if some Indian player praised a calm Australian batswomen by calling her a 'cow'.

Posted by: vam on 01/06/2008

Everyone knows that these tauntings and exchanges are not new to the game. But I suppose Punter and his team took it to a new level only because I believe thay feel somebody is breaching thier patented trade mark. Overall, it's a disgrace to see Australians falling to the lowest level of cricket to keep thier record on top.

Feeling really sorry for cricket and wondering If Australia can peacefully tour India ever after all???????

Posted by: Jason on 01/06/2008

I am sincerely amazed at the venom that has been presented from much of these blogs which I can only assume are from Indian fans. This is a game afterall. I love watching the passion from the Indian cricketing team. As a proud Ausse I do not see my team as angels and neither should Indian fans see their team as angels. To say the umpires are cheats defies logic. Why? They've had a bad game but so do players. I love cricket and have been watching the game since I was a child, one thing I've observed is that things even out for both sides they always do. It's a shame that racism has reared it's ugly head in this game but if the captains have been instructed to inform the match referee if an incident has happened then so be it. Australians are not innocent and have been embroiled in controversy in the past but that's what it is. The past. This kind of thing must be stamped out of the game completely, no matter who it is. I just hope that calmer head prevail for the rest of the series.

Posted by: 4th ump on 01/06/2008

I'll offer a radical suggestion-
LBW should be done away with as a mode of dismissal or the benefit of doubt should go to the bowling team.
And also, all caught-behind decisions should be referred to the 3rd umpire, as should be doubtful catches.
Very few people might agree with me but something really needs to be done to prevent a match from turning one-sided because of a wrong decision by an ump.

Posted by: john vane on 01/06/2008

I posted a comment earlier about Harbijian being an unusually stupid young man if, after the one day series in India, he doesn't know that 'monkey' is a racial taunt to any black man. I just want to first of all apologise to Harbajain as 'stupid' is not the word I would apply to an intelligent man, perhaps 'niave' is better. But to go to the umpiring issue, historically people always claim decisions go with the winning team - which may be true but will also be inevitable because a winning team has more genuine appeals - if you don't believe me go back and read some old clippings fom the Windies great days or recall the frustrations of visiting teams trying to get decisions in India and Pakistan in the old days when visiting teams always lost. Anyone listening to Tony Grieg's ravings about umpires might remember him pointing to his shoulder when he was caught behind in a test. As to walking Gillie was given out last year by Bowden after missing one - no one carried on about that.

Posted by: Raghu Menon on 01/06/2008

To Chhoka, Typical and the rest of the same ilk – Yes! the scoreboard says Aussies won this test match – but frankly would that have been possible without the help from other non playing members of your team – the UMPIRES - all 3 of them. They are the guys who won this match for you and they deserve to be in the annals of SCG’s hall of fame (SHAME). Also they should be decorated with an Aussie medal of honour from your country. Without them you would have LOST this match. They are your true heroes.

Posted by: nfa on 01/06/2008

ghost of jardine, you write well.And I think you grasped the situation quite well.

Mukul, bad post.Very bad post.

Indian fans: concentrate on building a better fans.

Australian fans: learn to be more graceful and acknowledge that your team acted none better than street thugs today

Posted by: muz on 01/06/2008

I can't believe the hypocrisy of some of the responses I have been reading. Why do so many Indian supporters believe their team can do no wrong? Do they never appeal for decisions that they know to be not out? Do they never intimidate the opposition? Should the Australian cricket team and the Australian cricket supporters in general thank the Indian cricketers and supporters in this blog for their self proclaimed high standards, morals and ethics? The assumption that Harbhajan could only have responded to a cruel and horrid taunt by Symonds smacks of self righteous indignation and the visual impairment of an ostrich with its head in the sand. Get off your high horses and own up. Your no better than anyone else. You give as good as you get and this case you gave alot worse. You can try and justify it all you like, but to call a black man a monkey is cruel, hurtful and racist in anybodys language or culture and well you know it. There is no reverse racism, only racism. Shame on you.

Posted by: Riffles on 01/06/2008

Hahahah. What racist nutcases you indians are. Here is an example of all your comments. Wah Wah Wah Australia do it so why cant we. Wah wah wah. You have just proved by your comments that you are all racist (things such as Symonds looks like a monkey and he looks rediculous and is slime etc). You say Australia are sore losers. Have a look at your poor misguided selves on here flooding this site with your racist ranting and nonsense. Not to mention your appalling grasp of the English Language. Might I suggest that you sod off to a site of your own where people can understand what you are trying to say. By the way, what about your number 11 coming out with two right handed gloves. HAHAHAHAH that was the biggest moment of cheating in SPORTS HISTORY. But poor India is so hard done by. HAHAHAHAHAHAH. You lost the test before he got caught in the slips anyway. Because if a batsmen does not take his mark within 3 minutes he is given out TIMED OUT. So there is a decision in your favour fools!!

Posted by: Alex on 01/06/2008

I seriously do not understand what is racial about being called a Monkey. The ICC has some great laws which make no sense at all. The implementation of these so called laws is even more questionable.

I do wonder if the ICC has a seperate dictionary which defines what is deemed to be racist. For mere mortals like me, mocking someone on the basis of his colour is quite clearly referring to his race. Perhaps there is indeed some race of humans today somewhere on earth called as the monkey race and Mr. Symonds suspiciously looks like them!

It seems that the decision of what is racial is left to the person who is perceiving that he is being abused. So at the end of the day, it all seems to come down to Andrew Symonds' inferiority complex. If the definition of what is racial abuse is so fluid and superfluos, I can bet my last penny that almost every word that the Australians utter under the garb of that fantastic phrase - "mental disintegration" is racial in any case

Posted by: Mukul on 01/06/2008

Mukul - Are your Australian?

Posted by: Chooka on 01/06/2008

Funny to read these comments by people who claim that whats going on is a result of the Aussies being sore losers, last time I looked the AUSSIES won the test match take a 2 to NOTHING lead in the series, RETAIN the Border/Gavaskar trophy and now head off to Perth to make the series 3 to NOTHING. If you cant deal with what the scoreboard says then leave your details and i'll send you a box of tissues to dry your tears!

Posted by: Merv Hyde on 01/06/2008

The Indian players have been treated by the crowds and players with great respect on this current tour. They have gone to great lengths to ensure this. The disrespect shown for Andrew Symonds in the ODIs in India, one of the most straightforward and honest players in the game, was not pleasant. I abhor racism, and even more stupidity. Harbajan Singh has shown both. If this was an Australian, our Cricket Board would be doing something about it. To suggest that "Monkey" is not racist when directed at people of West Indian descent is also stupid. Why then is it not used among Asian nations playing cricket? Why only one ethnic origin if it is an innocent term? I don't see the point made by the writer above? Singh has a terrible record as a player in this country - I note that Andrew Symonds had better bowling figures - and now has a tarnished reputation from a moral perspective. It is a shame as Kumble worked so hard to get the right attitude and all his good work was undone.

Posted by: Ali on 01/06/2008

I'm an Aussie and proud of it, dad with his indian heritage makes it for interesting viewing when the two teams play.Yet while forming an opinion to this monkey comment,can you be sure that Harbajhan supports the view of those senseless fans who wrote the monkey comments for Symonds in Mumbai.There isnt any evidence thats clear cut pointing to Singh as having said monkey apart from the word of the cricketers? Wasnt it Symonds who while being wired up for the 20 - 20 against NZ called Jacob Oram a big bast**rd and all of Australia heard it. Nah! nothing wrong when he said it, well i heard it, but i didnt hear Singh say monkey. Like many seasons ago at the MCG when a sign was being held at the Windies.. Belt That Up Ya You Gingers!! Racists, us Aussies, never!! when we call people by their color we're just joking, we imitate indian accents but dont get offended coz we are funny not racist, love using the F word, coz its our vocab..methinks its time to mic up the stumps and hear truth.

Posted by: Ali on 01/06/2008

I'm an Aussie and proud of it, dad with his indian heritage makes it for interesting viewing when the two teams play.Yet while forming an opinion to this monkey comment,can you be sure that Harbajhan supports the view of those senseless fans who wrote the monkey comments for Symonds in Mumbai.There isnt any evidence thats clear cut pointing to Singh as having said monkey apart from the word of the cricketers? Wasnt it Symonds who while being wired up for the 20 - 20 against NZ called Jacob Oram a big bast**rd and all of Australia heard it. Nah! nothing wrong when he said it, well i heard it, but i didnt hear Singh say monkey. Like many seasons ago at the MCG when a sign was being held at the Windies.. Belt That Up Ya You Gingers!! Racists, us Aussies, never!! when we call people by their color we're just joking, we imitate indian accents but dont get offended coz we are funny not racist, love using the F word, coz its our vocab..methinks its time to mic up the stumps and hear truth.

Posted by: Piyush on 01/06/2008

11 Indians against 13. It was a no contest.

Posted by: ANIL BAWA on 01/06/2008

It is an old Australian policy to intimidate opponents by slanging, sledging or wrong accusations. Andrew symonds and Ricky Pointing are now trying to salvage their reputation by accusing Harbhajan Singh. Ricky Pointing at a press conference had mentioned that batsman should walk when they are out, but he meant that all betsman except Australians should walk. Solving the problem lies with the Australians themselves. They have to accepct that the new breed of Indian subcontinent players will not take sledging lying down and will respond back. It is time that Australian wakes up to senstiveness of the opponents and behave in a manner suitable to their stature before demanding respect form veiwing public or opponents. My advice to Australians is to play the game in the spirit and then see how sweet victories would be.

Posted by: Raj Balakrishnan on 01/06/2008

Hey Pakisatni Raja and all other biased paki fans. Your team got thrashed by us in the T20 WC, one day and test series. So do not gloat. We are definitely better than pakistan (the most dangerous place in the world).

Posted by: Deamon on 01/06/2008

The conversation was started by Symonds, showing there was a trap deliberately set for Harbhajan. I say that because events moved too fast, as in a well-rehearsed drama. Within an hour of this "conversation", the umpires had laid a complaint with the Match Referee. It is a great shame and a weakness that some of the Indian media has been too quick to say that Harbhajan has been found guilty - showing a "neo-colonial" mentality, "if the whiteman says something that must be true", thus, "why bother to listen to our fellow-Indian first, before judgment". I had always thought the English language press of India is a serious liability for the country.

Posted by: Riffles on 01/06/2008

Oh and by the way. The way the indian posters on here are referring to every offender in the past, EG: Gibbs, Lehmann is very interesting. Perhaps your geography isn't all that brillian but South Africa is a long way for Australia and believe it or not we are not the same peoples. The fact you say THEM or the White skinned is also proof that you are racist. I never realised until tonight what an incredibly racist, and moronic view a lot of indians have of the world. See how I say a lot of indians, Not as has been posted numerous times on here ALL AUSRTRALIANS and ALL WHITE PEOPLE. Stop generalising and saying everyone in Australia is dirty and a cheater. That would be like me saying every person in India is a stupid, uneducated, racist loser with a massive inferiority complex. And we all know that doesn't apply to every Indian. Just the majority of posters on here :) See you in Perth losers. :)))))

Posted by: JUDE on 01/06/2008

Look at the picture above and look where symonds left hand is : why has no body noticed that
The indians have put on an new aggressive attitude in the last 1 day series, and the australians cant take they can only give and most teams are like india - Australians think they must win at ALL cost- if pick the ball of the ground and appeal - get caught in broad daylight in the slips and think there is a chance to be given out just becos i dont want to loose :HA HAHA

Posted by: Buts on 01/06/2008

I was going to read some of the comments but after three or four realised that a majority of them were obviously written by bitter, racist people of Indian decent. Here you are telling the journalist not to comment on the case before it has been decided on however you are all concluding that Barji is not guilty. If you are wanting to comment on the matter then surely the journalist is. Surely you can not be serious when you say that Ponting would conjure up this version of events so that Barji is possibly suspended from the rest of the series. CRAZY !! Get your head out of the sand. We are 2-0 up and the world's best batsmen has not really fired yet. Wait for Perth when the Punter his 200 and the Aussies go 3-0 up. I would like to have seen the reaction if one of the Aussies allegedly racially abused a member of the Indian team I am sure that you would want it fully investigated as alot of the comments indicate that as a race you have a massive issue with racism.

Posted by: rey on 01/06/2008

Teece...if you don't know that aussie cricketers have made sledging an art form and are proud of it then you don't know much about Australian cricket. And what makes you think calling someone a monkey is a reference to physical attributes of a race?? Methinks it's people like you who would come up with that idea...have you been taught that?

Posted by: Mike Hunt on 01/06/2008

Vishwas,
So Indians are genetically nice and decent? Yes the Indians were incredibly nice to the Muslims during partition. and you're all so nice to your 300 million or so poor people. Pull the other one mate.

This blog is a case of monkey see monkey do. Because every monkey here repeats the same ignorant diatribe.

I honestly thought Indians are supposed to be intelligent. Not in this neck of the woods.

Posted by: Mahesh on 01/06/2008

wayne (and several others): you seem convinced that harbhajan did indeed use the word Monkey. Where's the evidence? I haven't seen any so far.

...and for those of you suggesting that Monkey is not racist...It was made very clear in the ODI series that it was, indeed racist and degrading to someone of Symonds' background. If Harbhajan diid indeed use the term, he needs to be suspended - the way Gibbs was when he referred to the Pakistani fans as animals.

Posted by: Koushik on 01/06/2008

We should wholeheartedly welcome Australia's racism complaint. If India or any other country had started this trend, it would have been seen as whining losers. Now Australia has opened the doors.
If another incidence such as Ram Naresh Sarwan happens the other teams will complain in a jiffy and Australia cannot complain about being losers.

Another important use of this match is that Australian cricketeers will not be severely targetted by the world media. This is not small stuff. The English media have extracted their own revenge but spinning Shane Warne's live in circles for all the the Australian media did to the English cricketers. Cricketers are high testosterone characters and all it takes is to shine some light on their life on their personal lives.

I hope ICC takes action against Harbhajan. That will open the flood gates. All we need to do is then to use very high powered stump mikes such as the ones used in espionage to silence the Aussies in india.

Posted by: Mike on 01/06/2008

Many of the posts from Indian cricket fans are making out that their own team are a bunch of angels. Get real. To compete at Test level you have to be hard and strong. An Indian has been exposed for crossing the line in what has been set as acceptable on-field banter/sledging. He'll have to be honest or do his best to wangle out of it. We, the public may never know what really happened but rest assured the players of both teams know what was said or not said. A trial only reveals what is provable not the truth.
As far as the "chip on the shoulder" attitude regarding Australia's success why don't you pay attention to the Aussie fans. We want a team to stand up and give us real competition. Look at the magnificent reception Sachin and Laxman got for their excellent centuries. We respect players who fight hard against us. Lara and Freddie enjoy their time here as the respect the challenge set before them.

Posted by: Aussie on 01/06/2008

Quite a few people have stated "why is Symonds upset about being called monkey when he looks like one?"

Does that mean its alright to call Harbajhan "knobhead" because he looks like one???

Posted by: Zubair Ali - Pakistan on 01/06/2008

The Aussies are the most rudest and unhospitable hosts. Period.
It is in their culture to be rude, brash and offensive at every 2nd opportunity and they DO consider themselves a superior race.
I spent 4 years working in Oz and I have first hand seen accounts of racism and bigotry by people from all walks of life - young and old in all environments.
They are a naturally offensive people who enjoy demeaning and humiliating people especially from Asia, Africa and the middle east. Unfortuntaly, it is in their blood and everyone knows it (even the English)

And then they have the cheak to call Asians Racist.

Posted by: Jai on 01/06/2008

Claiming that Australians have previously made racist comments is no excuse for harbijan's comments - they should have been punished too, and in this day and age would be... plus if i remember correctly, Lehman at least had the guts to appolopgise for his actions.

Telling someone to stop acting like a monkey is different to calling them a monkey based on a phisical appearence due to their racial heritage.. and i find it hard to believe that many indians (who are an intelligent group) would disagree. Calling someone a monkey is not really racist in Australia either, if you are referring to the way they are acting, but if you are referring to the way they look then, of course, it is.

The Australian's do use 'mental disintigration', sledging, or taunting - call it what you will, but this is a different thing to racial abuse. Telling your bowler that the batsman is having trouble with the bowling and racism are two different things.

Posted by: Shashank on 01/06/2008

It is indeed a pity that for Australians ends justify the means. Despite being strong in the game for so long they are scared of loosing and will do anything to prevent that even if it is not in the spirit of the game. It's time Ponting and Co start behaving maturely and play sports as it is meant to be with honesty and integrity. How can Ponting claim to be honest when claiming a catch but not walking when you clearly nicked one to the keeper. For me it is a dishonest man leading a side that will do all it can to win even if it is not in the spirit of the game. Poor winners Australia!!

Posted by: Spence on 01/06/2008

it makes not one lick of a difference that the term 'monkey' isnt considered racist in the Indian vernacular.
The fact of the matter is, when touring a foreign country your are expected to respect their laws and customs. The Indian team represent their country in this way, as do the Australians when they tour. To an Austrailian, being called a monkey is racist, especially considering their indiginous population and legacy of multiculturalism. It implies that one is inferior based on their skin colour and is the sort of behaviour anyone on the street is likely to get offended by, let alone those representing their country on the sporting field.
So to those trying to pass off any intended abuse as simply a cultural misunderstanding, have another look at the laws of the game. Racism has a no-tolerance policy and if something is interpreted as being racist by the majority of Austrialians, IN Australia, then it simply is,and the perpretrator should brush up on what is considered offensive

Posted by: Shashank on 01/06/2008

It is indeed a pity that for Australians ends justify the means. Despite being strong in the game for so long they are scared of loosing and will do anything to prevent that even if it is not in the spirit of the game. It's time Ponting and Co start behaving maturely and play sports as it is meant to be with honesty and integrity. How can Ponting claim to be honest when claiming a catch but not walking when you clearly nicked one to the keeper. For me it is a dishonest man leading a side that will do all it can to win even if it is not in the spirit of the game. Poor winners Australia!!

Posted by: Nick on 01/06/2008

As an Australian I thought I'd better present another perspective:

1. While Australia has some shameful episodes in its history, it also has one of the most tolerant cultures in the world. 50% of Australians were either born overseas or have a parent born overseas.

2. No racism is acceptable. Darren Lehmann's comments weren't (which is why he was suspended), the Australian fans who called the South Africans kaffirs (sp?) and neither are Harbhajan's comments. It doesn't matter if YOU don't find the comments racist, Symonds does. Black football players in Europe are taunted with monkey sounds and have bananas thrown at them. Some of you may not know this, now you know - so stop saying monkey isn't offensive.

3. To suggest this is a strategy to get rid of H is ridiculous. If that were the case, they'd target Tendulkar or Dravid or Kumble, not a second tier player.

4. The umpiring was shocking. Everyone in Australia agrees and sympathises with the Indians.

Posted by: Brian McKechnie on 01/06/2008

I remain a loyal follower of Australian cricket. Though I believe Punter et al handled this one all wrong. I can understand his want to point out "it's not just us", but I think making an example of Bharj through reports and suspension or whatever goes too far. We all saw what happened. No one but themselves will really ever know what was said for sure. I sincerely hope Bharj gets off and stays on for the last two tests. I can't help but like the guy and would hate to deny him the chance to be involved in the Australian team going 18 straight test wins. Lets get on with it then. I'm tipping a 4-0 whitewash. Is it still OK to say whitewash? Thought I'd better check. There's a lot of preciousness getting around in cricket and all are to blame.

Posted by: chris on 01/06/2008

just like i said, indian fans continue to make excuses. the non stop racist comments towards this blogger are disgraceful. you idiots calling out white people... lol learn something about your own countries history!!!! you retards the earlier iindians were of dark skin until the lighter skins (like yourselves) took over them. you are just as bad as the english taking the aborigines land. if australia is such a racist country then why do so many indians live there?? no body is making you live with the big bad aussies!!!
the funniest thing is that in india cricket is full of the rich class, how many working class indian cricketers?? indian people as a whole have disgraced themselves through chat blogs just like this. you are arrogant racist simple minded people and please dont talk about fair play. you people have to be caged in at your stadiums because you behave worse than monkeys!!! how many sporting stadiums in australia need to be caged around??

Posted by: Lucas on 01/06/2008

I am from australia, and i now live in japan. I work and deal with many people from many areas of the world. The one thing i have learnt is that every area has different sensitivities. In japan the term "kuro hito" - black person - is perfectly ok and not derogatory but if i were to say it in say Los Angeles i'd be lucky to escape alive. In australia it's perfectly ok to joke about an immigrants (including the original convicts) heritage - as long as we smile when doing so but we never say the term "abo" or joke about an aboriginals heritage. We found these out the hard way, and of course we are still learning. In my daily dealings i meet people from india, nepal, china, america, etc and i am still learning what is ok for me to do and say with different cultures. India has been offered a chance to learn a cultural lesson relatively painlessly - no violence and little bitterness. Otherwise if you wish to learn the hard way then i suggest calling a samaon person a monkey.

Posted by: Gautam on 01/06/2008

The bottom line - the whole human race is racist
a) Whites calling colored player like Eto'o a monkey
b) Indians calling people chinki & gore
c) African-Americans being called niggers
d) Whites being called white c**ts by African Americans
You cannot change it .. the whole thing has been passed down the ages .. every race will always consider itself to be better than every other race.
Some may say that the world has changed .. I refuse to agree with that.

Posted by: Aussie Mick on 01/06/2008

I am a dark skinned Aussie who has played with and against a number of players from recent/current Australian teams since 1987. Each weekend, I play club cricket here and witness the so-called "tough man's" world of Aussie cricket. Let me tell you - it's The Great Lie. We are brilliant at dishing it out. Abuse, including racial abuse is OK so long as we're the ones imparting the insults. I've played in games with a few of the current team where I've seen them lose the plot completely when someone sledges them. For Ponting and Co to actually start complaining about it just shows what hypocrites they are. Who made Australia the "Morality Police"? If an Aussie says he caught the ball cleanly, the world is expected to believe it without question. We don't walk but we expect others to do so. We sledge shamelessly, wax lyrical about leaving it on the field and feel macho by saying "it's tough and it's a man's game." I'm ashamed to say that it's now the barometer of true manhood!

Posted by: chris on 01/06/2008

i would happly see india kicked out of world cricket along with zimbabwe. its unfortunate because the team does bring a good rivalry and are fairly good. but the fans in general are an embarassment to the game. next big crowd issue and india should be out. or at minimum suspended from playing home internationals for a few years. maybe then their fans child like behaviour and racist chants will be cut from their dwindling society.

Posted by: Vishnu on 01/06/2008

One question - does this entire racism argument rest on the fact that Symonds is of aborigine descent? If Bhajji had called Ponting a 'monkey' would that be considered racist? Does this mean that Symonds should not be subject to any name-calling whatsoever? What if Bhajji called Symonds a dog - would that be racist? Chetan Chauhan has a point - why has the poor monkey been singled out as aracist word? Generally, in India, even in a school yard, 'monkey' is a word used to describe less than perfect behaviour. Even my mother has on occassion called me 'kothi'. If Symonds is going to hide behind 'racism' every time he faces a few words after dishing out a few himself, that's not on.

Posted by: Pradeep on 01/06/2008

The Indian Media and Indian Sport journos have let down the Indian team very badly. Over the years when the Aussies resorted to most unsporting behaviour the Indian Media never higlighted them. I am absolutely disgusted that Mukul quotes the views of a person like Slater. He was the guy, who during a Mumbai test match some years ago went upto Rahul Dravid and verbally abused him after he was judged not out by the umpire. He was joined by Glen McGrath and another aussie player. I clearly remember the aussies descended on Rahul like a pack of wolves. There was abolutely no reaction from the Indian media or BCCI or ICC. Now Slater cooly passes unfavorable judgement on Harbhajan Singh for the so-called racist comments Harbhajan made. Mukul please remove your head from wherever it is buried.

Posted by: Chooka on 01/06/2008

hey Pakistani Raja .. I have to say i enjoyed your comment! Personally I cant wait for this series to end and for the tour of Pakistan to begin. It will be nice to see the Aussies play against a team of men who play hard without excuse for a change.

Posted by: Travis on 01/06/2008

To all the Indian posters who think that calling someone a monkey is not an expression of contempt (and I'm not really saying this, I just want you to have an honest think about how you would feel if I DID say it):

You, Sir, are a monkey.

If you choose to take offense at that then you're a hypocrite. Plain and simple.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and so is racism.

If you were Symonds' captain and he told you that he had been racially abused, what would you do? WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

If you say you'd do nothing then you, Sir, are a coward as well as a hypocrite.

Posted by: Scott on 01/06/2008

How everyone quickly forgets above Tendulkar being PLUM to Michael Clarke in the first innings. He only batted thru the entire innings like Symonds, yet nothing gets said by the Indian media - how convient....

The Aussies pants the Indians in Melbourne, guess they were cheating there too. Oh, what about the previous wins against Sri Lanka, England and the like.

Smells of sore losers to me. First the Asians run Daryl Hair out of the game and now Bucknor will be next. Very quick to point the finger at someone else when you guys lose....

And the talk about the Aussies and the way then conducted themselves, how about mentioning the blantent time wasting by India today. Sweeping the batting crease and oh, I forgot my batting glove! Spirit of cricket indeed!!!!

Posted by: Anon on 01/06/2008

Why should Harbhajan be gone forever? Ridiculous to say the least!!! It is common knowledge that provocation from aussies is the root cause and it is strange that no visiting teams before has lodged any complaints against aussies for their sledging. There had been similar complaints before and nobody had been banned forever. Has a complaint been lodged against harbhajan before or have australians been innocent and gentlemanly always?

Posted by: nang on 01/06/2008

Its amazing how so many opinions on this matter completely miss the point on all these issues. Sledging and Racial Abuse are two entirely different things. Sledging is abuse, but it is NOT racial! Lets put this in context, if Harbajahn did say the word "Monkey" to Andrew Symonds, he should have known better and should be punished accordingly. Whatever way you all put it, Harbajahn knew that this word was totally unacceptable and should not be exchanged between the two teams in whatever context. This word surrounded the whole racism issue in one day series. I would look at it this way if Ponting or any aussie player had sai it to any Indian player. I am sorry, Harbajahn should have known better, and if found guilty, will pay the price for his unacceptable actions.

Posted by: BIS on 01/06/2008

Guys can we get something straight?

TO CALL A BLACK MAN A MONKEY IS RACIST FULL STOP END OF PERIOD......

Posted by: IanM on 01/06/2008

Why is racism only supposed to be seen to be practicied by white people? Do not people of darker skin make racist comments to whites or others?

The answer is that all peoples have racists amongst their ranks.

There is a big emphasis on being "Culturally aware" and I am sure that visiting teams get some breifing on what is and is not acceptable in the country you are visiting.

Whether or not it is acceptable in India to call someone a monkey, in Australia it is an insult and a racial slur. So whilst you are in Australia, you are careful not to use that term.

I doubt that the complaint is a ploy to distract Harbijan from his game, this is more serious than that and whether you like or dislike Australians, I do not accept that the complsint was made lightly.

It is up to the match referee to make a decision but if you remember the dissent decison from the Melbourne test, you would not expect a proper decision.

Posted by: Spin King on 01/06/2008

Why is the word "Monkey" racist? We all came from Monkey. Why not the word, "Turbanator" racist? Turbanator is more racist because it involves the turban, which only sikh's wear. Mukul, I have supported you on everything you said before (except for dropping Yuvraj. As it turned out you were right). But, this time, I think you need to be more impartial. Just because Australians don't want someone to say the word, "Monkey", we can't ban Harbhajan for life. People who thinks so, should get one.

Posted by: Listerine on 01/06/2008

What a poor test match which has been marred by the umpiring and Australian team's antics. Dare I say it...match fixing. The Australian's have yet to impress me with bat and ball. I have watched alot of cricket over the years, since I was 12 (i'm now 30) and this is without a doubt the worst Australian team i've ever seen. Their attitude is one of pure belligerence and not just levelled against their opponents, but it seems they've scared the umpires into making them their "yes men" I watch Pontings,Symonds innings this test match. It cannot be compared to how Laxman and Tendulkar played. Ponting is a nasty little man, with the morals of an alley cat.

Posted by: Listerine on 01/06/2008

Ponting is attempting deviously to get Harb singh removed from the next test because he has exposed ponting's rather rubbish batting. And of course Symonds will say anything to help Ponting. They have that dimwit Bucknor on their side!

Australian's when are you going to play like cricketers, and not like convicts?

Posted by: Gurch on 01/06/2008

Completely agree with Raj Balakrishnan - these accusations have been cooked up by Ponting who is not comfortable playing him and the biased umpiring has made things even worse. If Symonds was called a monkey - does anyone here think his reaction would have been to carry on walking and speaking back? Utter rubbish!
The Aussy art of orchestrated appeals has won them their 16th test!
India will break this record - the talent they have in their ranks is incomparable to any other country - the T20 success is a small tip of a big iceberg. India are the only nation that could and probably will start fielding specialist teams in the 3 forms of the game - with about 3/4 core to each! So let Aussies enjoy their dying success which is obvious from their pleading performances.

Posted by: Tas on 01/06/2008

The real issue here is "what is abuse?". The ICC must answer that clearly, and then hold all players accountable to it, regardless of what nation they play for.

If that definition includes words that Indians or Australians find acceptable off the field, then they will just have to remember that they are not acceptable on the field.

Abuse should not be tolerated, but lets define it so everyone knows what the rules are, and then punish those who cross the line.

Posted by: disgusted on 01/06/2008

I think cricinfo should be very careful here what is being written is racial vilification and could be liable to a law suit, maybe they need to censor some replies as the racial tone is appalling. if cricinfo get sued then you guys have no where to blog so use your brains and think about what you say, because its disgusting and offensive. if the indian treatment of black people is the norm as shown here, then you ought to be deeply ashamed of yourselves.

Posted by: Fallon on 01/06/2008

"I don't see how calling somebody a stupid indian is racist" - James Sutherland, in response to the names Monty Panesar was subject to.

Australians - and I've lived here my whole life - seem to have serious trouble recognising racism... Because obviously Darren Lehmann calling the Sri Lankans "Black C-nts" is less racist that Symonds being called a "monkey". Another classic example is the advertising campaign last year - "tonk a pom"... I might be being pedantic but is that not also a derogatory attitude towards somebody because of their place of origin?

In the same way that Ricky Ponting didn't claim a catch to "prove" his integrity, I believe that the Australians are trying to victimise themselves to prove their sensitivity to racism, but instead simply miss the point and disgrace themselves.

They are the best team in the world, no question.

So just play cricket.

Posted by: Vij on 01/06/2008

As an Indian, I am embarassed. True, the game was mared by some bad decisions, but we had our chances to win this game on day 4 and did not capitalise on them. And moreover, marking remarks about Australia cheating and being sore losers is not reflecting on their character but our own - show me a professional athlete or team that doesn't try and win every game/opportunity and get every advantage possible? Moreover, appealing is a part of cricket - Kumble in the 1st innings against Hogg being an example.

The issue here has nothing to do with any of this. It is to do with racism. Not chatter, not other remarks, racism. However, the issue here is consistency - the ICC needs to have a standard of punishment for ALL offending players.I ndians who are racist should be punished to the extent that all other players are punished - and in the past with Australian players such as McGrath and Lehmann, that hasn't been a lot.

Let's just concentrate on the good cricket.

Posted by: whitington on 01/06/2008

The sound of a billion "chips" falling of the indian continent's shoulders is deafining.
Yes the umpiring was bad, but to suggest that the umpires were bribed is plain silly. The English owe us no favourers, & a West Indian is surely second only to a Pom for wanting to show us up.
We Won You Lost it might not seem fair but the result stands, build a bridge get over it, we will see you in Perth. Oh yes I forget cant wait for Taits return.

Posted by: Jonathan on 01/06/2008

Indian supporters should learn the difference between a sledge and a racist insult. Calling a black person a 'monkey' is a racist insult. It has no place in cricket and the ICC has recently agreed by laying down the law on this. Harbhajan knew that calling Symonds a 'monkey' is racist. Even the BCCI agrees by banning the Indian supporters who racially abused Symonds recently in India.

You can sledge an opponent - you might even utter a few swear words - but you are not allowed under the present ICC rules to racially abuse anyone. It's that simple.

Don't call a black person a 'monkey'. It's racial abuse. I don't see why the Indian cricketers and supporters target Symonds with this abuse. It's not nice and doesn't reflect well on Indians in general.

Posted by: Matth on 01/06/2008

If Harbhajan (sorry for the spelling) made racist offensive comments then he must be punished. simple as that. Past actions by any country are irrelevant to the current situation.

Equally future offensive comments by the Australians should also be punished.

Seems pretty simple to me.

Posted by: jen on 01/06/2008

The writer of this article of banning Harbhajan seems to be a mad guy. if calling monkey was racism. then this author is mad

Posted by: Carlos on 01/06/2008

Racism in any form is bad. Aussies are big racists. They have a history. Their origin has a scar. (This island had all the convicts send from Europe, so one can understand their origin). But Indians are no better. We have racism in our blood (Indians). Even if we see a Sunday matrimonial Column in any of the leading Indian newspapers - all of us want a Gori Bahu (Fair Bride). People discriminate among their children - Gori beti and Kali beti. Norht Indians tease South Indians , Easters (Manipuris etc) are treated and called chinkies, and absurd deragotory words..). I have seen African students struggling in India - bombarded with all sorts of comments. Indians are the biggest racials....as they are Pseudos.

Posted by: Steve-Perth on 01/06/2008

Racism of any sort should not be tolerated at any level of the game. Alot of people are suggesting here that there are double-standards here for Australian's on the issue of racism, heres the facts: Darren Lehmann was suspended for 5 one-day internationals for racist comments he made, which werent even directed at a player from the opposition. To blindly suggest that there are double-standards for Australians is, plain and simply, wrong.
Whilst, clearly the Indians were on the end of a number of poor umpiring dismissals, which probably cost them the match there is no need for people to get so worked up over a cricket game. Bucknor is a very talented and experienced umpire, he makes mistakes, like you, and me, give the poor guy a break.
What must be remembered at the end of the day is that this is a game, racism doesnt need to be brought into it, and criticising umpires is simply stupid (hell, if it were so easy, you and me would be doing it?).

Posted by: David on 01/06/2008

I've read enough tripe on this matter.Time for some REAL facts!Before the series began the law was laid down by Mike Proctor on racial abuse, one taunt in particular was mentioned following the Indian one day series. Captains were informed that if they became aware of a player on their team being racially taunted, they should immediately inform the officiating umpires,IMMEDIATELY when it happens.Forget the arguements of "double standards" or "whatever happens on the field should stay on the field", "bad losers" or "dirty ploys used to get on top" this was the protocol for this series. End of subject. Secondly, for all the fools who say there is nothing wrong calling someone a monkey, well, there is if you are of West Indian origin. The insinuation is that you are less evolved,eg. your forefathers swung from the trees,you have limited intelligence etc. Those who say they do not find this offensive miss the point,calling someone a name knowing it offends their ethnicity defines racism!

Posted by: BigAd on 01/06/2008

If anyone ever needed confirmation of how unbelievably racist Indian cricket bloggers are, then the responses above are Exhibit A.

Posted by: Bis on 01/06/2008

The fact that so many people here don't regard calling a black person a monkey as racist shows the ingrained Indian racism towards dark skinned people. For too long this kind of Indian racism has been swept under the carpet - having it brought out into the open is one good thing which might emerge from this episode. It will also serve as a salutary lesson for Harbhajan that shooting his mouth off is no substitute for performing on the field which is what he is there to do.

Posted by: Sen on 01/06/2008

Symonds is the one who provoked, he should be punished first without hearing Bajji. Then if Bajji, found guilty, he too.

But one thing is crystal clear, Australians are no more gentlemen's in this cricketing earth. Players like Ponting, Gilchrist, Symonds, Clarke proved they are not honest and not respecting cricket. This is the outcome of the game at SCG.

Posted by: raj on 01/06/2008

Hey,mukul,if u dont know how to write an article,be calm,but dont write unnecessary things.
Its a shame on u.
We all know that,the racism will never be spared.
If at all he referred him to monkey,wats wrong in that ?,that was not a racism........,instead it was an animal name!!!!!!!.
It was 100% correct that he was a monkey, with the way he appears with his crooked style and all of his actions.

Posted by: Ramesh on 01/06/2008

I wrote on cricinfo's feedback, but never saw my commments posted as done with other articles. Nevertheless for the third time: I would like to advise the Indian team on the way forward, as a law student and cricket, how do it get in touch? Symonds has no right engaging in an altercation with Harbhajan mid pitch, especially him not bowling at the time. He's begging for trouble, and got it, and now he and team complains. Ponting is annoyed at Harbhajan getting him out so many times in cricket, it was the end of a day that Aus lost the initiative. Symonds is seeminly seeking out the victimhood concept, and Ponting has long tried to latch onto something to take the cake. As regular sledgers of the game, they have tried hard to switch the blame on someone else, here they think they have an opportunity. Would be a sad day should the ICC succumb to this Australian arrogance and reverse/perverse strategy. Let the ICC waive its anti-Asian policy in this one instance for the sake of the game.

Posted by: Saurav on 01/06/2008

I feel compelled to add my thoughts, given the vast misconception to the original article. Ponting made a complaint based on an alledged racial remark by Harbhajan. The majority of the posters share their personal feelings. Racism constitutes behaviour that, is unwanted, creates feelings of unease, humiliation, intimidation or discomfort, causes offence, threatens or appears to threaten, whether intentional or not. Andrew Symmonds feels the term "Monkey" constitutes the above, as was well documented earlier last year. If this term has been used again, then Harbhajan should be suitably punished.
With reference to the sledging habits of others; the same procedure can be used if a player feels it is over the top. If the Indians decide to take the moral high-ground and ignore them, they belittle the sledger. Retaliation only serves to lower the bar.
I too felt anger at the poor umpiring decisions. I hope that H isn't guilty and that the Indian Team can take pride in playing good cricket.

Posted by: Kunal Savarkar on 01/06/2008

Please stop being holier-than-thou, Mr Kesavan. If we don't stand up for our rights, no one is going to. I am sure you will win lots of brownie points for standing up against Bhajji. He is a true son of the soil, a true north Indian, who will not take any shit from anyone- unlike the others.

Posted by: Sushobhan Chowdhury on 01/06/2008

Dear Mukul,

Please do not try to judge Harbhajan on the basis of what Ponting says. He may be an angel for you but not for us. If calling monkey is racism calling others mothers and sisters names are downright obscene. Why harbhajan should be banned for life, even if he is guily? Was Darren Lehman banned for life? You should concentrate on bigger issues in the game rather than trying to sensationalise the non-issues. You think Symonds was singing praises to Harbhajan. Try and find out why umpires robbed India. Why Bucknor is anti-Indian. Find out that firat and speak on all this non-issues.

Posted by: rahul bhandari on 01/06/2008

I do not understand why we all are arguing. Things have happened.Think what should be the positive move at this present moment. I think personally everyone should regard each other with respect and dignity. We do not know what we would be born as before we actually come to this world. I would not go into philathropy . So we should just hope things turn out to be best for both the teams in upcoming 3rd and 4th test. I hope symonds and harbhajan singh would mutually undesrtand the real beliefs apart from thinking how they each other look and to what country they belong to. Well good to them from all of us.

Posted by: Sushobhan Chowdhury on 01/06/2008

Dear Mukul,

Please do not try to judge Harbhajan on the basis of what Ponting says. He may be an angel for you but not for us. If calling monkey is racism calling others mothers and sisters names are downright obscene. Why harbhajan should be banned for life, even if he is guily? Was Darren Lehman banned for life? You should concentrate on bigger issues in the game rather than trying to sensationalise the non-issues. You think Symonds was singing praises to Harbhajan. Try and find out why umpires robbed India. Why Bucknor is anti-Indian. Find out that firat and speak on all this non-issues.

Posted by: Tim on 01/06/2008

The simple facts are that Harbahjan has said it multiple times to symonds. Did you see the way the indian crowd were getting involved in india, and many of you argue that calling Symonds a monkey is not racist. I agree that the aussies sledge alot but racism of any sort cant be tolerated, it cant just be ignored, from any team its not just because its harbajhan.
Now lets talk about double standards...in a recent article for channel 9 harbajhan stated 'he wished the series in australia to be played with a good spirit' - double standards.....
I wont say much more as im sure the BCCI will 'strongly' state their case against me. Its ok to be jealous of australia, after all we have beaten india time and time again. Good article Mukul ...........

Posted by: Kanya on 01/06/2008

this mr kesavan should shut his trap in case he does not know the full facts. he seems to be an indian siding australia. If you think that harbhajan should be banned from the game forever then in that case the entire australian team should be thrown out of international cricket. Get your facts clear mate.

Posted by: Macjoubert on 01/06/2008

Ponting is called Hatbhajan's rabbit - is that racist too?

Posted by: Mick on 01/06/2008

Firstly Harbhajan is a repeated offender, we all saw the abyssmal footage of the behaviour of the Indian crowds in October with their monkey chants and monkey gestures to Symonds and the way the Aussies felt about it (disgusted) they moved on from it and let it go, as I am led to believe Harbhajan apologised in India etc and the Aussies were happy to forget about it as long as it didn't happen again, remember the Indian officials at first denied it all and wanted it all swept under the carpet, so he knows damn well calling a black man a monkey is racist, there is no excuse for it. The Australians play hard cricket for 5 days that's why they win test matches and there is daylight between them and the rest of the world and sledeing etc...is all part and parcel of it all teams do it some are just better at it than others, but they don't use racial slurs, they don't make excuses for losing by blaming everybody else for their loses, Harbhajan should be suspended it is unacceptable behaviour

Posted by: Tova on 01/06/2008

Harden up India!!

You lost...

I wonder how you guys would have reacted if you were called a monkey!!

We would never hear the end of it!!

And by the way, I haven't seen too many of the Indians walking...

So who are the hypocrites??

There is more dribble written here in these comments than I have ever read!!

Get on with it and stop complaining...

Posted by: Michael on 01/06/2008

Clarification:
1) Lehmann said black c&*% - he was suspended for 5 ODIs
2) I am still amazed at the attempts to explain the monkey taunts by reference to Indian gods and local languages - footage was screened from the Mumbai ODI showing Indians doing monkey chants, with HUGE banners saying "Australia - why the monkey (Symonds) with the kangaroos". If you did this in Europe, you would be banned for life and beaten up by others in the crowd.
3) The Indian board and Mumbai police all insisted that: a) no monkey chants AT ALL were going on, then b) oh sorry, it is a foreign language - just a misunderstanding then c) yes they are saying monkey but it is not intended to be racist.
4) To my fellow Indians - you may not like it, but the world view is that generic sledging, no matter how vulgar, is acceptable in sport, but that under NO circumstances is race based commentary permissible.
5) Supporters - grow up and move on - the game was ruined by substandard umpiring, not the Aussies!

Posted by: Luke on 01/06/2008

WOW. Appears that lots of Indian supporters left comments! Umm in regard to Fanon's comments (13hr34min)I fail to see the irony in a player from a "non-coloured" country complaining of racism from a player from a "coloured" country. Racism can directed against any colour, creed or religion and contrary to modern thinking there is no such thing as "reverse racism". Secondly you seem to be discounting Symonds grievance based on what you seem to think is his comical appearance. Not sure if you have a mirror mate but you should have a glance. Maybe Harbhajan will be looking back.

Posted by: Sandeep on 01/06/2008

To Mick,
what a joke, you want to believe the words of a man who appeals for a grounded catch go ahead and believe, Ponting should be banned for minimum of 5 test matches for it

Posted by: Mick on 01/06/2008

After reading the biased Indian supporters comments on here it tells alot about how just like some Indian players you are hypocrits. Here they are whingeing about not walking....(Ganguly for one stands his ground alot when clearly out, and who can forget Harbhajan's pathetic refusal to go when clean bowled by Kevin Pietersen) talk about hypocrits many more I could name too. The Indians need to learn to lose with a bit of dignity and stop whingeing about decisions (predominately hyped up by the media for sensationalism)and focus on the job at hand to try to beat Australia (that's a hard task in itself) How's Kumble's form at the press conference now that was embarrassing to watch as was the form of the Indian press talk about hypocritical whingers. The same Indian press who are always personal and vicious in their questions, who in the past have wanted to fight players, who also sweep racial matters under the carpet.
THE TREATMENT SYMONDS GOT IN INDIA WAS ABYSSMAL.

Posted by: trey on 01/06/2008

I agree if Bajji said something like you "black ape" or "black monkey" it's extremely politically incorrect and the Aussie's cannot be blamed for being annoyed. But if Symonds was hurling sledges at Bajji (which he probably was) and Bajji retaliated with a "stop acting like a money" then its an entirely different context. It's not just the word but the context in which it was said which has to be adressed. As for the boorish behavior of some ignorant fans in India, Harbhajan can hardly be tarnished with that brush. Every country has a few idiots, India is no exception. Neither is Australia with a history of racism especially against SL. That doesn't mean all australians are racist does it? It seems rather petty, but this MAYBE a clever rouse by Ponting against Bhajji considering the obvious discomfort he faces against Bhajji's bowling. However, with all these "witnesses" "testifying" against Bajji and lawyers lining up, it seems theres definitely some genuine agitation in the Aus camp.

Posted by: Sandeep on 01/06/2008

Hey Michael,
I did not know making vulgar references to ones sisters and mother in the heat of the moment is acceptable, maybe it is so in western world but definitely not the rest of the world.

Posted by: udai bhan on 01/06/2008

australians cannot be believed any more

Posted by: glenn on 01/06/2008

Please everyone, i cannot believe some of these things i'm hearing. When is the indian cricket team going to realise that racially taunting somebody is not going to win them a test match, it seems that when things are going bad for the indians, something like this always comes up to cover up the real issues in that teams such as the disgraceful form of some of these so-called 'shining lights' of indian cricket such as yuvraj and MS dhoni. so to the entire indian cricket team, next time you step out onto the field, whether it be with harbhajan or not, the best way to intimidate the aussies is not to make racist taunts- it is with the bat and ball. If india want to earn the respect of the australian public, they should quit their little games and show some heart by forgetting about their 'god' statuses in india and going out there and having a real crack- not like any of these half arse little efforts that we have seen so far this series.

Posted by: Sandeep on 01/06/2008

Mick,
The way Symonds was treated in India was bad agreed, that obviously does not mean that umpiring was extremely bad in Sydney or that a few wrong appeals were made by Australians one of which was an absolute shocker. And btw Ganguly was'nt out the evidence was inconclusive and if it had gone to the third umpire would surely have been given as not-out.

Posted by: Gerard on 01/06/2008

I don't understand what all the controversy is about. 'Monkey' is not a racial insult. Yes, some Australians would be offended to be called one. They are generally found in institutions known as primary schools. I can't believe a 'professional' athlete would get so upset over such a lame sledge.

The reason Symonds is being targeted rather than the other players is not his skin colour or general appearance- it's the fact that he can't seem to handle stupid and irrelevant comments from the opposition.

(And yes, I am Australian)

Posted by: rajnish on 01/06/2008

Guys dont jump the guns,there is no evidence against harbhajan,this is dirty tactics of aussies to get rid of bhajji as they are feeling the heat,ponting is indeed Bhajji`s bunny so this is the last disperate attempt by them to put him under pressure,No one else heard him saying monkey only symonds teamates heard.Take a life....

Posted by: Sandeep on 01/06/2008

Mick,
The way Symonds was treated in India was bad agreed, that obviously does not mean that umpiring was extremely bad in Sydney or that a few wrong appeals were made by Australians one of which was an absolute shocker. And btw Ganguly was'nt out the evidence was inconclusive and if it had gone to the third umpire would surely have been given as not-out.

Posted by: g. arun on 01/06/2008

harbajan , yuvraj, sreesanth, irfan pathan, these guys never play the game in the spirit of the game. Whenever a wicket falls look at the way the above mentioned 4 players behave, they go into a war dance and are absusive and aggressive, lookig at them one is not sure if it is a game or war. Yuvraj has been cut to size, shown his place in international cricket, i think it is good for indian cricket that something like this came up aginst an abusive character like harbajan, because somebody had to take the initiative to curb their aggression and hostile attitude while indulging in what is essentially just a sport.

Posted by: jaytara on 01/06/2008

Tim>> You claim that Indians are racists but the good Aussies just sledge. Very interesting Tim, do you think we were born yesterday--- the Aussies use four-letter words and B****y Indian epithets freely even the self-professed men of the church like Haydos, no one has commented how that big lummox of a man needed a runner when he was sivelling his big behind so well, what a bunch of slobby cheats, shark-bait!!!!

Posted by: Roy on 01/06/2008

I think Symonds should stop crying like a monkey and just quietly slip the $100 bill to Benson and Buckner without making such a racket!

Posted by: Anon on 01/06/2008

Someone talked about time wasting!! Well, how about Aussies? Do you think they bowled at a great over rate? I think you havent been watching! The moment, they get a little under pressure, the come up with all sorts of antics, sledging, and other mind games to unsettle the opposition which is nothing short of cheating. India were outplayed in Melbourne and were outplayed by a 14 member australia team and their verbal antics. Well the previous series against England and Srilanka, they were hardly tested?

Posted by: Travis on 01/06/2008

You're all monkeys. Apparently that's a compliment.

Posted by: kaku on 01/06/2008

Dear keshavan.....all i can say is....u r a lo**r....looking for some readership for ur articles...cheers

Posted by: shyam on 01/06/2008

Shame on Alex is he Indian how can you call srisanth and bajji as stupids. You believe Indian say such words pls be Indian I strongly think that all the five aussies should reverted against false allegations against bajji. Indian cricket board should be strong as Jagmohan Dalmiya did last time to ICC. We run the show we should also protect our cricketers against wrong allegations wake up Pawar show your power or pick up wear bangle and sit at home and also request some comments said against Indians by some people I believe either they are not good readers of the game or they are not true Indians. I would like to ask one question to Ricky ponting and his team pls give the meaning of sportsmanship if they know the meaning they will not play such a dirty game. I always believe they are dirty team and they will be dirty team ever to be played game.

Posted by: Ostrichlike Aussie on 01/06/2008

To Riffles Sniffles,Mick and other australian ignoramuses, IF you prefer to believe that Ponting is a saint, please apply for his sainthood to the Vatican. In fact do that for the entire team. As for India being losers, that would be the obvious result if 11 play against 13. I have an idea - get your most favorable umpires Steve bucknoi and darrell hair for the Perth and Adelaide tests. os that you can conveniently win and gloat over your "fair win". I used to admire Allan Border's team, even the one under Mark Taylor. Not anymore. Don't even get me talking about the Australian media. Another question, if someone has an itching sensation in both armpit regions simultaneously and Symonds is watching, should they do nothing because he's going to go screaming - racism, racism?

Posted by: shyam on 01/06/2008

Shame on Alex is he Indian how can you call srisanth and bajji as stupids. You believe Indian say such words pls be Indian I strongly think that all the five aussies should reverted against false allegations against bajji. Indian cricket board should be strong as Jagmohan Dalmiya did last time to ICC. We run the show we should also protect our cricketers against wrong allegations wake up Pawar show your power or pick up wear bangle and sit at home and also request some comments said against Indians by some people I believe either they are not good readers of the game or they are not true Indians. I would like to ask one question to Ricky ponting and his team pls give the meaning of sportsmanship if they know the meaning they will not play such a dirty game. I always believe they are dirty team and they will be dirty team ever to be played game.

Posted by: glenn on 01/06/2008

haha i cannot wait to see the perth test match when shaun tait is steaming in on a rock hard wicket and takes off the heads of the entire indian top order..then we'll see how good you really are!!

Posted by: Shalender Singh on 01/06/2008

There is nothing stupid in what has happened.
This is a kind of behaviour the entire world expects from Australian Cricket team.
With 13 players to your side,with the two having the veto power and one technology expert like Ricky ponting in the side,who can judge better than the technology today.You can no doubt win every match.
I think they are should be called "world cheaters" rather than calling them world champions.
Australians cricketers were never gentleman and neither we expect the same from them because this is what they are in thier true colours.

Posted by: sureshm on 01/06/2008

For all those Aussies complaining about monkey chants directed at Symonds, some points to note. First, it is indefensible and the stupid defense of it by some Indians inexplicable. Second, it is new. To the best of my knowledge, no West Indian team has complained about it even when they were thrashing the hell out of India (which was most of the time). Indeed, Sir Garfield Sobers, I recall, say that he enjoyed touring India in his autobiography. The monkey chants seem - if I had to guess - to have been picked up by some idiots watching too much European football (Italian, Spanish leagues, perhaps?) Third, there is little doubt that Indians are at least as racist as Australians. That said, I would urge Aussies to note that to many Indians - myself included - there is no reason why racist abuse is any worse than any other type of abuse. To you, abuse directed at one's mother or sister may be "part of the game." Rest assured, we in India or Pakistan do not view it in that light.

Posted by: Muthu on 01/06/2008

what would you say to Symonds who dished out some derogatory stuff to Pathan after he hit him for a six? wonder if dhoni had lodged a complaint then? If symonds cant keep his mouth shut, then he should be prepared to receive as well.

Posted by: sandy on 01/06/2008

Aussies Are the Bad Loosers!!!
BullS**t Game played by the aussies and umpires

Posted by: Prashant on 01/06/2008

Sledging, both the term and practice, seems to have been an Australian invention. Consequently, Ponting has decided to appoint himself the curator of this artform and feels he has the right to determine whether a specific “sledge” represents gamesmanship, merely good humoured banter or racism. An Australian, slipping in a comment on the field to break the opponents flow of play or concentration is “just how we play- hard & fair” and “within the laws of the game”. But if the roles are reversed and an Australian is subjected to their own ‘gamesmanship’ then that is suddenly unacceptable and baseless accusations are made by the (ironically) self appointed moral police of the game. There has not been racism here. Just some bruised egos. 16 consecutive test wins does not give you the right to bully the rest of the cricketing world. Meanwhile,maybe we’ll hear a remake of Percy Sledge’s 1966 hit When a Man Loves a Woman,that gave rise to this term,in the form of: When Harbhajan Loves Symonds.

Posted by: Aditya on 01/06/2008

Racism in any form is unacceptable. In India, Sikhs have been called Sardars and jokes abound using their turbans brains and anything else. In fact some of the best sardar jokes I have ever heard have been from Sardars That I have known. I giess we just have to figure out whether we, as Indians, have had enough of the "colonial Mentality" and decide to call the bluff... if they Punish bhajji they are punishing us.. let's hit them where it hurts most.. on their bloody wallets... I think Sri Lankans have more guts then us... Please do not turn your other cheek... One cheek is enough :-)

Posted by: Tom on 01/06/2008

For all the people (I use the term loosely) who don't think "Monkey" is a racist slur against someone of African decent maybe you really need to look at history. Africans people as a race would be referred to as Monkeys to indicate that they were less than human. If thats not a racial slur then I fail to see what the problem is with the words spicks, coons, chings, wogs and curry munchers. Afterall they don't offend me.

Posted by: Mithun on 01/06/2008

I just want to say that dont bring disgrace to monkeys by comparing it with symonds. its way better than him.

Posted by: Mithun on 01/06/2008

I just want to say that dont bring disgrace to monkeys by comparing it with symonds. its way better than him.

Posted by: Arun Kumar V. on 01/06/2008

Mukul,

I've been reading up a lot of your writing and most of it's very impressive.

I have a few questions that people might want to ponder upon...

If Harbhajan had dreadlocks and applied zinc cream on his lips because he was being paid for it and even if Australian Press called him a monkey...would you think it'd be because of race? Is it fair? Or am I being racist by saying 'fair' for justice?

Is cricket getting a racial hangover or is it being passed on by Australian media..and players and plus, it looks like its gotten into you too.

Cheers!

Arun

Posted by: DJ on 01/06/2008

Its amusing to note that Australians are now being defended against racial abuse. There is no more racist nation than Australia. Everyone who is not white anglo saxon is given some stick and its all in good "fair dinkum" aussie humour.
C'mon guys ..where is you machismo Aussie mojo here? What happened to "curry munchers" and "chingvale" in the Melbourne suburbs?
If I remember correctly - wasnt it Darren Lehmann who called Jayasurya a "black ape". Hmmm..nothing racist there...
Besides I dont understand what the big deal is about Symonds being called "Monkey". Its probably not very accurate considering he looks like something larger that swings from trees.
Whats racial about it? Ian Botham was called "Guy the Gorilla" and I dont remember a hue and cry about it.
Stop being sucks Australia and get on with it.

Posted by: madan verma on 01/06/2008

mukul kesvan must be a very happy man by now and must be enjoying the news on his couch and pop in hand as cricinfo has reported a 3 match ban on harbhajan even without any evidence. cheer up mr.kesvan!! we have been defeated by the mind games of ricky ponting and co.
thanks

Posted by: madan verma on 01/06/2008

dear all
just imagine who has handed the "ban" - mike procter a south african remember" dogs and....."
I am really not a happy guy for now.it would have been even steven if symonds and co also been handed the same punishment for the instigation.
thanks

Posted by: harish on 01/06/2008

Monkey! Can anyone explain how it can be racist? The australians always take "shelter" with their actions saying its common in Australia but we were unsure that it was offensive in Asia. Man, talk about double standards. Ricky (the Squealer. I wanted to say "Rat" as used in the english phrase, but was afraid the moderator might think I was racist!) and his mates have been an embarassment to cricket and their nation. Nothing but a hyprocritical set of blokes who cant handle their own medicine.

Posted by: madan verma on 01/06/2008