My usual lair is Different Strokes, but that’s a place for (semi-)topical opinion rather than discussion of statistics methodology, and Rajesh has been kind enough to allow me to interlope and put this little study before you.
Although I didn’t start out that way, what I’ve ended up with, I think, is a pretty good cross-era ranking of the most efficient strike bowlers Test cricket has known. I don’t claim that it’s definitive: what I do claim is that the method I’ve used is quite interesting, and I’d like to see what other stats mavens make of it.
The first decision I made was to eliminate all minnow matches. Leaving out Bangladesh and Zimbabwe is pretty commonplace but if we’re being realistic, only England and Australia did not have a bedding-in period as minnows before they became a team to be at least reckoned with. It seems essential to eliminate minnow matches because otherwise some bowlers are at a distinct disadvantage: a bowler whose career was from 1970-1980 never got a chance to bowl at a minnow team, whereas Fred Trueman had endless fun with weak Asian teams in the 1950s. Since I use Ric Finlay’s Tastats, this sort of exclusion is very easily accomplished.
There being no formal event which declares a team to have “arrived” in Test cricket, I had to make some arbitrary judgements about when to regard a team as having graduated. I took South Africa’s entry to senior ranks as having occurred when they unveiled their quartet of googly bowlers and comprehensively thrashed the fairly weak England team which toured in 1905-6, after which they were generally difficult to beat. Though West Indies won a series against England in 1934-35, the touring side was again half-strength; I decided that they did not really graduate until 1945. India’s graduation I took to be 1961, Pakistan’s 1965, New Zealand’s 1969 and Sri Lanka’s 1990. One might be able to argue that Zimbabwe were of a reasonable standard from about 1998-2003, but it seemed simpler to leave them and Bangladesh out of all consideration. Since I also have a prejudice against non-Test matches being included, the ICC Superflop game is also left out.
Subtracting those games has a widely-varying effect on a bowler’s career total of wickets. Muralitharan drops from 751 wickets to 588 and Trueman from 307 to 192, whereas Jeff Thomson and Michael Holding’s figures remain untouched.
Next, I decided to find a way to give greater credit for taking top-order wickets, because they are the ones you really want your strike bowlers to be cleaning up.
I was initially tempted to weight them on the basis of the runs scored at each position, but then realised that the top order contribution is exaggerated by declarations and innings cut short by the match being over. I then moved on to using the batting averages at each position.
Adding up the averages for each position gives a total of 307.27. The share for each wicket is given by positional average/total average, so the #3 average of 39.662 is 0.129 of the total. Those shares sum to 1, so if we multiply them by 11, they will sum to 11. This gives us the following weightings:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
1.34
1.27
1.42
1.48
1.34
1.15
0.98
0.75
0.56
0.41
0.331
If the dismissal of a batsman is worth the above number of wickets, then a bowler taking one of each will have a total of 11 wickets, whereas someone with a top-order bias will have more and someone who wipes up tail-enders exclusively will have a lot less. Owing to a limitation in TAStats, whose breakdown of bowler’s victims by position does not differentiate between openers, in practice I used 1.30 for both 1 and 2.
To take three examples, Shane Warne’s total gets adjusted from 685 to 685.2, Glenn McGrath’s from 549 to 605.6, and Stuart MacGill’s from 164 to 159.0. Given that in practice a lot more top-order batsmen than tail-enders get dismissed, most bowlers actually show a profit, so MacGill’s reduction is evidence that he really was a tail-end cleaner.
If we apply this wicket adjustment to the figures for non-excluded matches and remove everyone who played less than 20 relevant games or took under 100 relevant wickets, this is the resultant top ten by average:
Player
M
Balls
Runs
Wkts
Adj W
AdjAve
AdjSR
SF Barnes
27
7873
3106
189
203.6
15.26
38.67
R Peel
20
5216
1715
101
108.7
15.78
48.00
MD Marshall
81
17,584
7876
376
410.3
19.20
42.86
CEL Ambrose
96
21,641
8401
397
433.1
19.40
49.97
GD McGrath
120
28,485
11,930
549
605.6
19.70
47.04
AK Davidson
34
8997
3033
142
153.9
19.71
58.48
JC Laker
36
10,312
3611
162
178.3
20.25
57.84
AA Donald
69
14,906
7113
316
350.7
20.28
42.50
H Trumble
32
8099
3072
141
150.8
20.37
53.71
J Garner
58
13,175
5433
259
265.9
20.44
49.56
The right-hand column shows that there is a wide disparity between bowlers’ strike rates. A strike bowler’s efficiency does not depend solely on runs conceded; his strike rate is also an important factor because of the runs scored at the other end and the overall time taken. If Dale Steyn bowls six overs and takes a wicket but concedes 30 runs while Makhaya Ntini concedes 18 in his six without taking a wicket, the opposition are 48/1 at the end of these spells. If Shaun Pollock bowls 11 overs and concedes 20 runs while taking a wicket, 33 runs get conceded at the other end and the opposition reach 53/1 although the game is ten overs older.
I have for some time been toying with a measure I call the Power Index, which combines the average and strike rate by multiplying them together and taking the square root. Sqrt((runs/wickets)*(balls/wickets)) has a denominator of wickets, so the numerator can be seen as representing the resources used up in taking a wicket.
If we apply that algorithm, we get a new top ten, as follows:
Player
M
Balls
Runs
Wkts
Adj W
AdjAve
Adj SR
Adj PI
SF Barnes
27
7873
3106
189
203.6
15.26
38.67
24.29
R Peel
20
5216
1715
101
108.7
15.78
48.00
27.52
MD Marshall
81
17,584
7876
376
410.3
19.20
42.86
28.68
AA Donald
69
14,906
7113
316
350.7
20.28
42.50
29.36
CEH Croft
27
6165
2913
125
141.7
20.55
43.50
29.90
DW Steyn
23
4414
2706
114
114.7
23.60
38.49
30.14
GD McGrath
120
28,485
11,930
549
605.6
19.70
47.04
30.44
CEL Ambrose
96
21,641
8401
397
433.1
19.40
49.97
31.13
J Garner
58
13,175
5433
259
265.9
20.44
49.56
31.82
Waqar Younis
73
13,517
7374
293
312.3
23.61
43.28
31.97
Ambrose and McGrath drop down, Colin Croft rises, and Dale Steyn and Waqar Younis come in instead of Davidson and Trumble.
However, this is deeply unsatisfactory because we know that Barnes and Peel played in a time when scores were lower and wickets fell much more often. Today’s fashion is to bat aggressively from the word go, whereas in the middle of the last century caution was the Test batsman’s watchword. We need a way of equalising for the changes in general pitch conditions and style of play.
This is a well-known problem, and what follows does not claim to be universally applicable.
But the essential aspects of what we are examining here are the balls bowled, runs conceded and wickets taken. If we can find a way of keeing one or more invariant, then we have a fixed point while scaling the others to fit.
I decided to use the first match innings of Tests as the way to fix par. The first innings of the match is the least likely to be cut short by weather, and the least likely to be affected by tactical considerations. A third innings can be anything from a stonewall grind trying to save a match to a hell-for-leather bash while trying to set a target, but a first innings is always going to be played at whatever pace the side think appropriate given the conditions and they will nearly always get as many runs as the conditions allow. The dimensions of the first match innings may change, but its tactical purpose does not.
Across our population of matches, the mean first match innings notches up 327 runs off 678 balls.
What I did was to find out the dimensions of the average first match innings in a particular bowler’s period. I decided not to restrict the sample to matches that the bowler played in, because then his performances are effectively the norm and we don’t see how he stood out (or not) from his contemporaries. I think we are more interested in how their performances stack up relative to everything that happened in their period, so I used all the non-excluded matches played in the cricket years (running May-April) which his career spanned. Somone who debuted on 11th November 1982 and finished on 25th August 1994 would thus have his period defined as 1982 –1995 (Ric Finlay will recognise his “years from and to” filter option).
I then scaled their figures for balls bowled and runs conceded accordingly. So a bowler whose period averaged 340 runs off 650 balls is adjusted to concede his actual runs * 327/340 off his actual balls * 678/650 . We now have adjusted figures for each of balls, runs and wickets and can run through our standard calculations for average, strike rate and PI to come up with our final result, the top ten of which looks like this:
Player
B/I1
NewB
R/I1
NewR
NewW
NewSR
NewAve
NewPI
MD Marshall
659
18,091.0
321
8023.2
410.3
44.10
19.56
29.37
SF Barnes
552
9670.1
266
3818.3
203.6
47.50
18.75
29.85
DW Steyn
630
4750.3
358
2471.7
114.7
41.42
21.55
29.88
AA Donald
644
15,693.0
319
7291.4
350.7
44.74
20.79
30.50
GD McGrath
645
29,942.4
335
11,645.1
605.6
49.44
19.23
30.83
KR Miller
800
8199.6
329
3597.0
175.3
46.77
20.52
30.98
RR Lindwall
798
9219.3
325
4337.5
200.3
46.03
21.66
31.57
EH Croft
641
6520.9
308
3092.7
141.7
46.01
21.82
31.69
FS Trueman
764
9085.6
325
4665.5
203.5
44.64
22.92
31.99
JC Laker
790
8850.0
321
3678.5
178.3
49.64
20.63
32.00
B/I1 and R/I1 are the average first match innings balls and runs for that bowler’s period.
As a dedicated supporter of SF Barnes as the king of bowlers, I am mortified to discover that Malcolm Marshall pips him to the top spot – but if Barnes had to be toppled, I’m glad it was Macko.
On a very contemporary note, Dale Steyn has made an incredible start to his career, since he comes in at number three (with a bullet) on this all-time list. Waqar Younis’s figures at the same stage of his career were even more spectacular, with a PI of 27.29, so we can probably assume that Steyn will also descend the list as his career unfolds.
Of the top ten, only McGrath and Laker were ever really used in a containing role on dead pitches, and they did not do that much. In the full table, those who spend time keeping the runs down without taking wickets lose out, with the result that Shane Warne comes a lowly 55th. But then, this is not a merit ranking but an assessment of how nearly they approached the ideal of incessant lethality.
It’s not an unbelievable top ten. If the model is wrong, it still manages to produce a sensible result.
But it can certainly be challenged on a number of points.
Are the cut-off dates for minnowhood reasonable?
Are the relative batting averages of the positions in the batting order a sound way to weight the value of wickets?
Is the Power Index a sensible way of combining parsimony and frequency to measure attacking prowess?
Is the first match innings a useful point of reference?
Even if comparing first match innings is reasonable, should one average the dimensions thereof for all matches or just the ones the bowler played in?
Whatever those averages are, is it sufficent to scale them in a linear fashion or should some more complex function be used?
So let the debate on those and no doubt other questions commence.
Posted by: akshat ghildial at December 19, 2008 10:54 AM
A lot of effort put into it. But a list of all time greats that doesn't feature Wasim Akram and Shane Warne just can't be right, no matter what the statistics say. Statistics might suggest anything, its just the fear and respect that these two guys could put in the heart of their oppositions that is a real indicator of their greatness as bowlers.
Posted by: Shyam at December 19, 2008 11:20 AM
Quite a good analysis. You do need to standardise using the first innings comparison to take into account the pitches and the relative strength of batsmen at the time. For your last question on averages, is it possible to use a bell curve? Also, having Steyn in the top 10 is good as he is often accused of only running through minnows but those results have been taken out. Interestingly, Miller and Lindwall were in the same team for a large amount of their careers, as were Trueman and Laker, and Croft and Marshall overlapped slightly. Would it help them at all to have each other bowling from the other end?
Posted by: David Barry at December 19, 2008 11:33 AM
The question of strike rate is a difficult one, since whether you want it high or low depends on the rest of the attack. Take the example you give with Steyn/Pollock and Ntini. If Ntini is only going to rarely take wickets and his average is some fixed value, then you want his strike rate to be high so that his economy rate is low.
Of course, the best bowlers in history will usually have inferior bowlers as teammates, so all other things equal you'd like them to have lower strike rates. But the optimum for, say, Hadlee would be very different from that for Marshall.
I am far from convinced about using overall position averages (it's better to get Tendulkar out than Mark Waugh, even though both bat at four), though this may not make much difference in the end.
Linear scaling is good.
Only using first innings should be OK, not sure what difference it makes. An idea might be to split it by innings, so changes in pitch deterioration are taken into account. contd.
Posted by: Old Fogey at December 19, 2008 1:09 PM
Intriguing! Intuitively it feels like a credible outcome (watching Marshall at the Basin Reserve was a neck-hair-raising experience!).
Given the nature of the game, the use of the first match innings has a logic to it, but would seem to systematically favour pace over spin. You do have that covered by using the term "strike", so one should not quibble (and indeed, I cannot think of an alternative methodology!) That said, the position of Murali on the list in what must be assumed to be less favourable spin conditions is pretty impressive.
So ... the result seems to fit your intent, and I'll follow the discussion with interest.
Good stuff!
Posted by: Ananth at December 19, 2008 1:48 PM
Mike
Nice analysis.
The domination of pace bowlers is understandable considering that their strike rates are usually 20% lower than those of the slower bowlers.
I had the same problems when I did my "Who" and When" article on ODI bowlers. Only one spinner was there in the top-25. But that was a specific analysis of whose wickets and when, so the opening strike bowlers almost always had the advantage.
May I suggest that the supporting report could have three parts, one overall, one pace and one spin. I am sure Ric's database has the bowler type attribute.
The other minor suggestion is to have a serial number in the supporting report. Would make the report more readable.
Posted by: Kaushik at December 19, 2008 1:57 PM
Good analysis! But can't think of a list without the top 3 wicket-takers in the history of the game irrespective of stats.
Posted by: Gugu at December 19, 2008 4:07 PM
The analysis is interesting but it doesn't make much sense. Many analysis have shown that Waqar was an expert at taking top-order wickets and Wasim was just behind in that sense. But this analysis changes lots of things that are based on aribitary measures. And if matches are over because top order batsmen have won the match or captain declares the inning, then how does in practice more tailend wickets are fallen than top order wickets? If innings are completed, then on average all wickets are fallen equally. But since innings are declared and matches won, tailenders wickets fall less than top order wickets.
Posted by: Rejoy at December 19, 2008 5:33 PM
If I understand this correctly, the index is kinda biased against spinners 'cuz they do not get a fair shot at the top order batsmen. I mean surely they get to bowl at the top order batsmen (especially the openers) only if the fast bowlers fail. For example, by the time Warnie came on to bowl on most occasions, Pidge had already gotten rid of the openers. Which probably explains the former's absence from this list.
Posted by: apacheindian at December 19, 2008 6:24 PM
Using the batting positional averages skews the analysis towards the bowlers who typically bowl in the start of the innings, i.e, the fast bowlers. Bowlers like Warne and Muralitharan have typically stifled the middle order or ended an inning quickly by cleaning out the tail and wiping out the support for world class middle-order batsmen and their strike rate is exceptional.
Posted by: Omer Admani at December 19, 2008 8:56 PM
An important thing that you ought to also consider are the pitches (in line with eliminating minnows). Subcontinental pitches, take Multan, are very unconducive to fast and seam bowling, and Most of Pakistani or Indian bowlers would have played 50 percent of the matches at home. Include to that Pak's tours to India and vice versa, there is a great incentive to make provisions for subcontinental pitches in a fair analyses. True, in Australia the average-runs-per-wickets might be higher than even, say, India in the last few years, but yet most of the wickets taken in Australia are by the pace bowlers, whereas in India spin-bowlers tend to get a larger share of wickets. Consider Brett Lee's recent tour to India and even now Flintoff's which has so far not been remarkable. Also, Pakistan has the flattest pitches in the world in Multan and Karachi so this analysis might be a bit lop-sided against a few Pakistani greats such as Akram, Imran Khan, and Waqar Younis.
Posted by: Dan at December 19, 2008 9:29 PM
I like the analysis but I would say that by choosing a first innings base you are always going to favour pace bowlers as a spinner is more likely to be used for containment until the pitch has broken up on later days of the match. Thus I feel it is a testament to Laker's ability that he features in the top ten of such a list
Unless I have miss understood your first innings weighting of course.
Posted by: Kartik at December 19, 2008 9:59 PM
It will be interesting to see if Mendis can sustain his strike rate, and make this list.
Note that while an express bowler will have the best balls per wicket, they can also bowl the fewest balls per match (and fewest matches per career), due to the demands of their craft.
That is why the top-3 Test wicket takers are spinners, and the next 2 bowlers to crack 600 Wickets will also be spinners (Harbhajan and perhaps Mendis), not pacemen.
Posted by: john k at December 19, 2008 10:07 PM
if shane bond had managed to stay fit for more than one test in a row and if new zealand cricket had a spine where would he sit in this table
Posted by: manju at December 19, 2008 11:38 PM
It is unfair to call the list as "The most efficient strike bowlers in Tests". The way you have arrived your numbers is too much helpful for the fast bowlers - especially opening bowlers. It is a well known fact that day 1 - 2 of any tests the spinners don't get any assistance while in most of the grounds in places like England, SA, Australia, Day 1 fast bowlers get huge advantage. So either you should change your title to "The most efficient strike fast bowlers in Tests" and avoid the spinners from the analysis or you should consider spinners performance in day 4 and day 5 only.
to me
"day 1 in england for a fast bowler" = "day 5 for spinner in India"
You forget this simple fact and take away the best performances of spinners - either you've forgotten this or you have some grudge against spinners. For the last decade the highest wicket takers list in the world are dominated by spinners - still the only spinner in your list played his last test in 1959.
Man YOU DO HATE THE SPINNERS!
Posted by: sami at December 20, 2008 4:23 AM
Stats doesn't tell the whole story. I do agree with akshat that a list without those two bowlers Wasim Akram and Shane Warne is useless. If those two are not in the all time greats then no one deserve to be.What magic and how enigmatic they were, its unbelievable.
Posted by: I only tell the truth at December 20, 2008 6:38 AM
I am really amazed you guys have all the time in the world to make such meaningless analysis.
Anyway, no indian in top 50!! First indian comes at nr 61.....does that an indication India generally had/has an impotent bowling attack?
Posted by: Migara at December 20, 2008 8:19 AM
Good analysis, but few point of note.
1. Pace bowlers have more opportunities of taking wickets, as they have all 10 wickets left. Spinners have less, because by the time thay comein to attack, some wickets have been fallen
2. You are with the impression of SR of pacemen = SR of spinners. Spinners are less in number in a team, and spinner bowl more overs than fast bowlers. Strike rate of spinners tend to be higher. No adjustment was made about that
3. Not counting wickets against minnows is good. But wickets taken while being in a minnow team should be considered and given more weight.
4. Proportion of matches played against each nation has to be adjusted to known number. Pacemen who has bowled more at poor pace playing nations benefit more, and same for tha spinners.
Posted by: Ashish at December 20, 2008 8:22 AM
Mike,
U've obviously put in a lot of effort into this list and rankings so first of All CONGRATULATIONS on a stupendous effort!!
But I still feel the Greatest Left-Arm Quick the world has ever seen,Wasim Akram,should have been on this list.
I'm Indian and Whenever I used to watch India vs Pakistan matches in the 90s I used always watch Akram with absolute wonderment.How on Earth does a Fast Bowler bowl 6 legitimate deliveries,where all 6 are completely different? And that too off such a short Run-Up? Genius,Pure Genius if ever there was one.
I dunno how he would have fitted into this list,but then that's your Headache not mine!!
Also,most Indians don't rate Warney very highly as he got clobbered heavily in India and he wasn't exactly awesome on all Surfaces.But if you had added another metric in for Showmanship then Warney would have fitted right in!!
Ashish.
Posted by: Abhinav Hasija at December 20, 2008 9:25 AM
I like this analysis. I always say that being a strike bowler means that you can take wickets .. runs be damned
Regarding the reference point of taking the score of the first innings... wouldnt it be better if you took the average score per inning in the test match.. meaning you actually divide the total aggregate by the number of innings (3 and 4 separately) I think this will also give a better indication of the bowlers performance in trying conditions( given that when only 3 innings occur, the each of the wickets counts for more). What is your opinion?
Posted by: Gypsy at December 20, 2008 12:30 PM
I don't really understand why there are so many people worried about the spinners. The author states "this is not a merit ranking but an assessment of how nearly they approached the ideal of incessant lethality"
ie this does not pretend to be a list of the best bowlers in history. It is a measure of the effectiveness of a team's strike bowlers.
My understanding of a strike bowler is one you expect to get the best batsmen - these are usually the opening bowlers - which are usually fast bowlers, if a spin bowler gets on this list he is indeed a great bowler.
I guess if the article were to be improved maybe a definition of a strike bowler would help orientate the subsequent comment.
That said, to include all the relevant variables of test cricket into a mathematical model would obviously be near impossible, and hardly worth the effort. This is a pretty good modle creating a reasonably definitive list of efficient "Strike" Bowlers - Not a list of the all time best bowlers.
Posted by: nrana at December 20, 2008 4:23 PM
I think the nature of the surface should also be considered as the south asian wickets are not that helpful to fast bowlers.
Posted by: Zeshan Ali at December 20, 2008 4:26 PM
I appreciate your hard work, but disagree, because of a few reasons:
Many people have tried multiplying different statics for bowlers and batsmen, but have never found a way that can encompass all measures of statistics in one single statistical measure, like average, strike rate, economy rate etc. Or we would be using it, instead of arguing if Jaysuria is a better batsman than Dravid, despite having an inferior average, because Sanath’s strike rate is better.
2. Few would dispute that Waqar Younis was one of the best "strike" bowlers of all time. Many bowlers like McGrath are very efficient bowlers, but I would not consider them strike bowlers in that they do not strike as often as say Lee, Younis or Marshall.
You could argue that McGrath is a better all around bowler than Waqar Younis, but certainly not as efficient a strike bowler.
Posted by: RA at December 20, 2008 5:19 PM
Your analysis puts Paul Reiffel, Bruce Reid and Andy Caddick (good bowlers no doubt but 'honest triers' at best) ahead of Shane Warne - need I say more?! Tailenders need to be given a higher weight esp. in recent matches where they add valuable runs (e.g. Aus v SA at Perth).
Posted by: swaroop at December 20, 2008 6:02 PM
One issue with taking the 1st innings as a reference. In quite a few matches the pitch does quite a bit on the first morning. In that case, its advantage bowlers. There would be a reduction in the batting average at least for first two positions. So we might need a variable that would take into consideration as to whether a bowler got his wickets in the 1st innings on a helpful pitch. If so, take a list of all the matches that were played on bowler friendly conditions on the 1st morning, take an average of the positions. Recompute. I don't if it would lead to a change in the list, coz again in the list that we have now almost all the bowlers have been very handy in helpful conditions, no matter which innings. Still, it would be nice if we could add one more variable. And on such helpful pitches, I think it would be wise to take an average of the 2nd and 3rd innings of the match, rather than the first two innings. As someone rightly pointed out, spinners stand no chance in this list.
Posted by: Bala Yugandar at December 20, 2008 9:45 PM
Exhaustive analysis....seems arbitrary, objective, biased per different points of view. What gladdens me is even without this complex analysis 'Macko' was the best ever strike bowler-striking fear into the very being of batsmen! He always seemed to run through batting line-ups whatever be the conditions. Simply irresistible!! it's particularly frustrating that ESPN legends of 20th century ranked him only 17 and has Lillee at 7th....how biased. As some already remarked....Akram has to be there in top 10 or even top 5 of any list!
Posted by: eddy at December 20, 2008 11:36 PM
Your amazing stats and conclusions only confirmed what i have known 4 years...MM was the greatest seam/fast bowler EVER.
I do however agree with some of the above comments highlighting the absence of Warne and Wasim. Warne the greatest
cricketer ever to throw down the red leather and Wasim the lefthanded Marshall. Apart from their ommision a great piece! eddy
Posted by: CricinfoFan at December 21, 2008 4:53 AM
I like this analysis, however I think there is a glaring difference. The conditions when a spinner comes on is greatly different to when a pacer does. Batsmen will have to be pried out from having been set for spinners where pacers, or the best strikers, tend to face batsmen who are trying to play themselves in. And what about pitches? A bowler like Murali has played most his career on a dustbowl whereas Warne at home really only has one spin-conducive pitch to bowl at. Same with pacers where in the WI and in Perth pace bowling was much more helpful than in Pakistan.
Posted by: Zeshan Ali at December 21, 2008 6:52 AM
I appreciate your hard work, but disagree, because of a few reasons:
Many people have tried multiplying different statics for bowlers and batsmen, but have never found a way that can encompass all measures of statistics in one single statistical measure, like average, strike rate, economy rate etc. Or we would be using it, instead of arguing if Jaysuria is a better than Dravid, despite having an inferior average, because Sanath’s strike rate is better.
2. Few would dispute that Waqar Younis was one of the best "strike" bowlers of all time. Many bowlers like McGrath are very efficient bowlers, but I would not consider them strike bowlers in that they do not strike as often as say Lee, Younis or Marshall. You could argue that McGrath is a better all around bowler than Waqar Younis, but certainly not as efficient a strike bowler.
Posted by: Rasbihari Mathur at December 22, 2008 4:11 PM
Great analysis! I must say. But bowlers like Steyn always have good strike rates because they bowl short bursts. This is slightly unfair to bowlers like Mcgrath who toil in over after over on unhelpful featherbeds just because they are not as fast as a Lee or Steyn. Also the weightages of positions is always bias against spinners, especially those who play in teams with a good battery of fast bowlers
Posted by: Allen Johnston at January 2, 2009 3:52 AM
I’m afraid your analysis of the importance of strike rates, in terms of the example of Ntini partnering either Steyn, with a low strike rate and higher average, or Pollock with the higher strike rate but lower average, has some flaws. In your example you assume that Ntini won’t take any wickets himself, but when one assigns an average to him, then the situation changes. If Ntini has an average of 33 then partnering Pollock the score after the 11 overs would be 53/2, whereas partnering Steyn the 2nd wicket would fall at 88/2 (Ntini concedes 33, Steyn 55). Even with Ntini having a relatively high average, it can be shown that the Pollock/Ntini partnership will bowl the opposition out for a lower score. For example, if Ntini has an avg. of 33, Pollock/Ntini will take 10 wickets for 265 in 110 overs, whereas Steyn/Ntini will take 10 for 336 in 84 overs. The simple average is still the best statistic for measuring a bowlers ability and is far more important than the strike rate.
Posted by: Mohan at January 15, 2009 11:59 PM
Analysis aside, though does show lots of sense, I have watched several great bowlers bowling, flair of their run, and intimidating batsmen over the years. I must say that Malcom (MD) Marshall is the best of all.
Mohan
Posted by: Ritwik at January 27, 2009 9:19 AM
Hi Mike,
I have been crunching some cricket stats of my own and part of my analysis uses the one that you have done. Can you also include the number of tests played by each one of these bowlers, after the removal of the 'minnow' tests? Thanks a lot.
Posted by: hastagiri at January 29, 2009 9:49 AM
I have one suggestion, as a bowler gains reputation as a strike bowler, opposition batsman tend to be more wary of that bowler and tend to attack the other bowlers more. So you should take into account the drop in strike rate (and increase in economy ) of his team-mates when the bowler in question is playing as opposed when he is not playing. Also spellwise analysis may make some sense as many times a change of bowler brings about a wicket not because the bowler is a top strike bowler but because of the lack of adaptability of the batsmen to the new bowler
Posted by: luqmaan at February 15, 2009 5:14 PM
itz a great analysis...i appreciate the work done...i'l tell u people 1 thing!!...dont take the credit away of some great legends the sport has had..such as Murali Wasim and Warne..and even Kumble...watever said and done playing cricket for a long time and getting so much of wickets is not an easy thing as you sit on write comments..please be aware of it...and don't underestimate their performances...
Posted by: Pat at August 3, 2009 9:56 AM
It is amusing reading the comments by the subcontinental apologists all agog because their favourite bowler is not higher :) This list is not anti-spin.
The only thing I would suggest is that when you removed the minnow matches, you removed the minnows. What of the minnow players like Heath Streak? They weren't usually bowling against minnow batsmen, were they? Just curious to see how folks like Streak and co (Strangs, Olonga) did.
The ODI and T20 list would be interesting too.
Posted by: dadal at September 20, 2009 7:08 PM
Good Article but some changes could be made
(i) changes should also be made for conditions the bowler bowls in
eg if the pitch is not conducive for spin , the wickets taken by a spinner should be taken into account and wickets taken by a paceman in say the subcontinent should also be adjusted
(ii)adjustments should also be made for the strength of the bowlers' strike partners
ie Marshall bowled alongside Holding,Garner and Croft. McGrath had Warne. While someone like Steyn
has less support
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