Clay Smith not Lionel Cann

Smith's comments are remarkable. He and his mates are the only people who lost the matches and refused to train. And he he serious to think the ICC would even bothering to waste time consipring against Bermuda. Theyve enough on their plate with major countries

Smith's comments are so childish. Logie hit the nail on the head when he said that his team was not serious about winning and lacked dedication.

The seniors in the Bermuda team will continue to bring the unit down, and this is going to spell doom for them. I just hope the ICC doésnt spend a penny for this team again.

BTW cheers to the Afgan team!

This truly is appalling by a senior official of Bermuda cricket. Bermuda failed as I had expected to retain their ODI status because they lost to teams that were more enthusiastic and hungry for success. I applaud Afghanistan for their success, they fully deserve their achievement certainly much more than Bermuda who's cricket culture and attitude have been called into question by media, officials, opponents, and the ICC.

Bermuda have so much young talent and the potential to make test cricket circle one day. They have great young players and I have no doubts that they can bounce back provided they "purge the deadwood". As well as the constant improvement of the game infrastructure.

I applaud Cricinfo for their honesty in the articles that have been written about Bermuda in recent times.

You lost Bermuda don't be a bunch of babies. Get up bounce back and prove to the world that you can do it.

Typical Bermudian attitude. It's never their fault you know.

If it rains in Bermuda, then the rain came from US.

If a Bermudian can't get a job, it's an expat's fault.

It's really simple. If Bermuda had been good enough to finish top 4, they would have qualified. If they had been good enough to finish top 6, they would have kept status.

But they didn't.

This whole article is symptomatic of the country's attitude. And cricket expert Clay is a school teacher no doubt drilling the same 'look for someone else to blame' attitude into his pupils.

Hi, I feel like i have to add to this conversation. First of all, I am Bermudan. I don't agree with Clay Smith statement. However, i don't totally agree with the statement make by Longtail! Yes some Bermudian do blame expats, and those are few. Now logie was right, but he is also to take part of the blame for the failure! Very nice guy but i felt not the guy to get the job done. Great example of this was the failure to not open with Hemp in the important games. We all saw what happened when he did! Let's us look on the bright side, we do have some good young batsmen coming out, but it is the bowlig that we need great improvemnet on.
And as for your final line, Longtail, that is why you are once! Not all of the public here feel like that. Now peole can see why some of us Bermudan have problems with expats like you!

Why haven't you posted that the Bermudian Cricket Board have distance themselves from Clay Smith's comments? This is not Bermuda's conspiracy theory. This is Clay Smith's conspiracy theory. Just another example of irresposible reporting by Cricinfo when it comes to Bermuda cricket.

"Now peole can see why some of us Bermudan have problems with expats like you! "

And problems with spelling, it would seem.

Den - typical again. It's the media's fault and not Clay Smith/the Bermuda boards. When will people like you wake up and realise that you need to take the blame for your own failings.

When did the BCB "distance" themselves ... after the article was written. So it was write at the time it was published.

"Irresponsible reporting". You mean saying things you don't want to hear. There's a difference.

Marcus please. Who said it was the media's fault? Clay Smith has a weekly article. He writes what he chooses. The Board doesn't decide what Clay Smith writes. Just because he says something doesn't mean the Board or Bermuda at large feels that way. Looking at the headline and the article on Cricinfo is misleading. What can't you understand. I have printed and said many things in relation to Bermuda's failings in cricket and not just in forums like this one but also to the faces of the coach, players, and administration alike. What I want to hear is the real reasons Bermuda cricket has not elevated. It goes way deeper than just the players. In any case Marcus how are YOU or cricinfo helping the situation???? You are probably to naive to see what's happening and I wish cricinfo would do a proper article that addresses the situation instead of writing these hell bashing stories that serves no one. I still maintain my position. And longtail; PLANES LEAVE BERMUDA EVERY DAY GET ON BOARD.

Marcus the point is Cricinfo only prints what it wants. How many peple actually feels as Clay Smith does? Very few if any. Yet cricinfo makes it out as if we all feel this way.

Den - you seem to think that Cricinfo is the publicity department of the bermuda board. It's not. It reports things as it sees it. Some reports I don;t like, but I respect their views.

You should ask the BCB why they are so pathetic at flagging good-news stories.

Come on then. What good news stories are there? The U19s have been covered by cricinfo. What else is there? What has been done in the two months since Bermuda played so patheticly in SA? The coach has quit ... has anyone on the board stepped down or even accepted there is a problem?

Carry on in your ignorance. After all, Bermuda are a great side and but for the media would be at the next World Cup.

And for the record since it's not sinking in. I personally feel that this years tournament was as fair as it possibly could be. Clay is way off base. I also feel that finishing 9th was not such a big deal as it is made out to be. Analyse the 8 teams ahead of us and you will see it. This was a very competitive tournament as the results show. We were not blown out by anybody. We scored 250+ against Kenya and lost. We gave Ireland a fight and came up a little short. We had players not just David Hemp perform well and were amongst the leaders in the tournament averages, etc etc etc. Open your eyes and look deeper.

“Finishing 9th was not such a big deal as it is made out to be” – no, of course, No big deal. Other than missing out on a place at the World Cup and ODI status for four years.

“We were not blown out by anybody. We scored 250+ against Kenya and lost. We gave Ireland a fight and came up a little short.” Er … yeh. But Bermuda still LOST. Perhaps the ICC should award status on not losing badly.

“We had players not just David Hemp perform well and were amongst the leaders in the tournament averages, etc etc etc. Open your eyes and look deeper.” This is where you leave planet earth and enter la-la land. So you judge the success of a tournament on where people finish in the averages? Surely, if some players were high in the averages and the team was still rubbish, it means the bulk of that team was appalling.

Please, get real. Start looking at how to put things right and not coming up with frankly pathetic reasons for Bermuda’s CONSISTENT and LONG-TERM shambolic displays.

MARCUS - Your starting to get on my nerves now. If you can't have a decent debate don't write on others comments. Tell me how to mind read like you since you assume so much of what I'm thinking? You have not heard or read my reasons of why Bermuda's cricket is where it is. Once again. I have given my thoughts to the relevant people; the Coach, the Board, and the players. Your just blowing hot air on a web site forum with immature comments. And for the record....Cricinfo have not posted all of my comments in regard to this issue. But Marcus if you want to settle this meet me up Long Bay tonight.